Belgian Grand Prix 2014, Spa-Francorchamps - Race 12/19

What does it matter if they hit on the first or last lap if it costs podiums? They are talking ****. It shouldn't happen at all, regardless of lap.
 
i do think this is a shame.
the team being against rosberg is going to mentally hurt him going forward
 
It is just such a clumsy move looking at it again, he just brakes loads later than Lewis then tries to squeeze round the outside on a tight chicane. He even turns away at one point and then turns into him again :/
 
dannyjo22 said:
Remember when Vettel was that smiley and the under dog and all of Ocuk loved him for being a plucky under dog....

When he's beating Hamilton bi-weekly I'm sure Ocuk will hate him. ;)
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lol, it won't happen, do you know why. Vettel cheated against his team mate, he got team orders multiple times, and as WE ALL SAID THE WHOLE TIME.... Vettel just isn't a very good driver. He rarely makes brilliant over takes, he's a boring driver, it's not that he won, it's that he won in a truly superior car, taking advantage of team orders while not looking that good.

The car is behind at the moment and Ricciardo has been ridiculously good to watch, he's been involved in multiple brilliant over takes, he's faster, he's a better driver. He's great to watch, which is why so many people like Alonso and Hamilton, not because he's english or because of who he is, because he's exciting to watch.

Vettel isn't exciting to watch by and large(everyone has an exciting race now and then), Button isn't good to watch, Rosberg gets beaten by most when on level pegging, with all the advantages better drivers keep him behind or get ahead of him all the time. He's one of the more exciting drivers out there still but he's clearly not at that top level.

Alonso beats Hamilton loads over the past several years..... yet we all like him.

It's almost like all the really exciting drivers are liked highly and the boring drivers who rely on cheating/team orders or pure luck(while being beaten often when not having luck). The boring drivers are called boring, when they are boring, regardless of if they are winning or not.

How many people questioned how good Vettel really was because you know, we could watch him and see a lack of top notch quality, just in a top car against a poor team mate. How many others went "4 titles, he's clearly the bestest"... who was right?

Who are great drivers is really easy to spot, I like multiple direct rivals to Hamilton across the past 6 years, and dislike the boring drivers, rival or not.
 
justbeats said:
Well what else could he say? 'It was Lewis fault'. Of course not.
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Red Bull did with Vettel when they favoured him over Webber. They blamed Webber. If they were pro German they could have just said nothing and said they would deal with it internally.

Quite clearly they don't have pro German bias.
 
drunkenmaster said:
lol, it won't happen, do you know why. Vettel cheated against his team mate, he got team orders multiple times, and as WE ALL SAID THE WHOLE TIME.... Vettel just isn't a very good driver. He rarely makes brilliant over takes, he's a boring driver, it's not that he won, it's that he won in a truly superior car, taking advantage of team orders while not looking that good.

The car is behind at the moment and Ricciardo has been ridiculously good to watch, he's been involved in multiple brilliant over takes, he's faster, he's a better driver. He's great to watch, which is why so many people like Alonso and Hamilton, not because he's english or because of who he is, because he's exciting to watch.

Vettel isn't exciting to watch by and large(everyone has an exciting race now and then), Button isn't good to watch, Rosberg gets beaten by most when on level pegging, with all the advantages better drivers keep him behind or get ahead of him all the time. He's one of the more exciting drivers out there still but he's clearly not at that top level.

Alonso beats Hamilton loads over the past several years..... yet we all like him.

It's almost like all the really exciting drivers are liked highly and the boring drivers who rely on cheating/team orders or pure luck(while being beaten often when not having luck). The boring drivers are called boring, when they are boring, regardless of if they are winning or not.

How many people questioned how good Vettel really was because you know, we could watch him and see a lack of top notch quality, just in a top car against a poor team mate. How many others went "4 titles, he's clearly the bestest"... who was right?

Who are great drivers is really easy to spot, I like multiple direct rivals to Hamilton across the past 6 years, and dislike the boring drivers, rival or not.
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Well said.
 
Mr Men said:
Yes we have and it ruined the racing, so that is why the stewards have been told to be a little bit more lenient so every racing incident is not a penalty, which is great for the sport.
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Well in this case not having a penalty has ruined (or at least damaged) the championship battle.
 
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