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Do you think they should? Why? Do you work for the RIAA or MPAA?
Benifets to be a pirate gamer :(
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Do you think they should? Why? Do you work for the RIAA or MPAA?
No, nor should they. The cost of that game has already been covered.
Do you think we should tear down a house and build a new one, every time someone leaves. Or that a portion of the house sale should go to the developers. Of course not. You lot are just being stupid.
That was a side point.
Illegal downloads. generate no money for the developers.
For every second hand game out there. The devloper has made money from it's sale the first time around. Illegally downloading and 2nd hand isn't even remotely the same. As you've missed the rest about houses. I'll conclude you're being silly and looking for a reaction.
Man of Honour
I can remember when Tombraider 3 came out the blokes at work decided on how to get it cheaper but it meant being patient.
8 of them put their name into a hat and that would be the order they played it.
The 1st guy bought it brand new for £40, completed it in 22 hours and sold it to the 2nd guy for £35.
This went on for about 2-3 weeks where the last guy bought it for £5.
They also did this for other games that were quick to complete.
Now my maths says that a total of £180 was paid for the game where the developers only got about £5.
I agree with Zefan.
8 of them put their name into a hat and that would be the order they played it.
The 1st guy bought it brand new for £40, completed it in 22 hours and sold it to the 2nd guy for £35.
This went on for about 2-3 weeks where the last guy bought it for £5.
They also did this for other games that were quick to complete.
Now my maths says that a total of £180 was paid for the game where the developers only got about £5.
I agree with Zefan.
Yes there is a difference, 1 is legal, as the owner of a game has the right to sell it 2nd hand, where as the other is illegal as its breaking the copywrite.
Intellectual property is completely different to a house, and you know it.
Saying they made money from the sale the first time around, is just saying they're selling the disc. But what they're selling is the contents on the disc.
Then frankly your short sighted and have no logic.
If we moved this to buildings, cars ect. the economy would be crippled in days. then manufactures/developers wouldn't be getting anything.
It's a hugely miss guided view. Which people are jumping onto for no comprehensible reason.
And it's still on that disc when it's sold on.
there's no different. You paying for something. In one case the code, in the other a property. That code/house is your to sell on. Now if developers released oem style games. Then you would be correct but they don't.
Which is why you saw Sony looking a renting the licence to games instead and also Steam where you can't sell the game on (legally) after you've purchased it.
Just because you can legally sell games at the moment, doesn't make it right. So I'll go back to my point, if you're buying 2nd hand games you're no better than a pirate.
Man of Honour
I can't take anybody seriously when they type ect.
Sorry - its my big hate on these forums (just behind the rolleyes smiley)
There not selling ytou the game, so you have no right to sell it on.
You are buying the game and paying a premium over renting. This gives you legal and moral rights to sell it on.
So you would rather have someone who cant afford a new game to not buy 2nd hand games? 2nd hand games allow word of mouth to spread about the game, just like a brand new copy of it would. If 2nd hand games were not allowed then it would limit how much word of mouth gets around about the game. Also, if a person buys a 2nd hand game and likes it, he may decide to purchase other games from that dev team, or that genre.
Also for a enviromental standpoint, its better to sell games 2nd hand, then to throw away old games you dont play any more, as that way it gets reused, instead of recycled or just thrown in the trash.
As well as giving money back to people who buy new titles.
It wont be like that for a LONG time imo. Lots of people still lack high speed internet, or have bandwidth caps and traffic management policies that would make downloading entire games difficult. Because of this, games sold on real physical media like dvds will continue being sold for many years to come. They will proberly even start selling large games on blue ray before they fully market games on an online only distribution method.
If I were a developer then the way I see it
Selling game on from one person to another (like dmpoole mentioned above) is generating me no money while 10 people have played that game.
So as far as I am concerned that is lost revenue really (no different from if they'd pirated it). The fact that second hand is legal isn't important as at the end of they day I'm not getting any money from either.
sid
Selling game on from one person to another (like dmpoole mentioned above) is generating me no money while 10 people have played that game.
So as far as I am concerned that is lost revenue really (no different from if they'd pirated it). The fact that second hand is legal isn't important as at the end of they day I'm not getting any money from either.
sid
The simple way to stop lost revenue through second hand games, is to make games so good that people can't wait to buy them second hand, or reduce prices to a resonable amount (which also discourages piracy) so people can afford them. It's fair and everyone wins.
Last year EA made $3 billion in revenue and made a net profit of $76 million, so clearly developers aren't doing too bad due to piracy or 2nd hand games.
Last year EA made $3 billion in revenue and made a net profit of $76 million, so clearly developers aren't doing too bad due to piracy or 2nd hand games.
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