Best bands to come from england?

Deadly Ferret said:
I'm astounded, and confused, to be the only person in the whole thread who has mentioned Genesis.
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I grew up with Genesis and I got to see Gabriels Genesis three times and Collins Genesis (spit) once on their first tour. I must admit that Collins did do a superb job on that tour although everybody missed Gabriel. The thing with early Genesis is that the songs were never quite there in my opinion. I always thought the same about rock band Budgie - great riffs but didn't really end up anywhere.
Its sad for me to say but Collins Genesis hit the complete song better than old Genesis did. Every now and then Planet Rock will pull out Suppers Ready, Battle Of Epping Forest and even I Know What I like and the hairs go up on the back of my neck but after a few minutes you want them to stop (thats me anyway).
After a Steve Hackett interview I decided to pull out my copy of Lamb Lies Down On Broadway which i played to death when it came out and it was as though it wasn't the same album anymore (I feel that way about Dark Side Of The Moon too).
For me the best of English prog rock had to be ELP followed by YES with old Genesis coming up behind.
 
dark_shadow said:
Bloc Party without a shadow of doubt :cool:

Also like Muse & Snow Patrol.
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of all the bands in the last 50 years.......it's Muse, Snow Patrol and Bloc Party? Yes, they produce good music but it's nothing ground breaking. It's all middle of the road stuff, you need to look further back than year 2000.
 
Big Kev said:
The Who
Led Zeppelin
Queen
Pink Floyd
The Rolling Stones
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...That pretty much sums it up :)

As for the 'Queen aren't from England brigade' ...Where would you say they hail from?
 
Raymond Lin said:
of all the bands in the last 50 years.......it's Muse, Snow Patrol and Bloc Party? Yes, they produce good music but it's nothing ground breaking. It's all middle of the road stuff, you need to look further back than year 2000.
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Tbh that's what I would say to someone who listed their 3 fav bands as being from the last couple of years... But I do also think that Bloc Party are something special, they have something that great bands like the smiths had, I'm just struggling to put my finger on what it is...
 
dmpoole said:
I grew up with Genesis and I got to see Gabriels Genesis three times and Collins Genesis (spit) once on their first tour. I must admit that Collins did do a superb job on that tour although everybody missed Gabriel. The thing with early Genesis is that the songs were never quite there in my opinion. I always thought the same about rock band Budgie - great riffs but didn't really end up anywhere.
Its sad for me to say but Collins Genesis hit the complete song better than old Genesis did. Every now and then Planet Rock will pull out Suppers Ready, Battle Of Epping Forest and even I Know What I like and the hairs go up on the back of my neck but after a few minutes you want them to stop (thats me anyway).
After a Steve Hackett interview I decided to pull out my copy of Lamb Lies Down On Broadway which i played to death when it came out and it was as though it wasn't the same album anymore (I feel that way about Dark Side Of The Moon too).
For me the best of English prog rock had to be ELP followed by YES with old Genesis coming up behind.
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What do you think of their relative careers after Genesis? I'm a fan of some Peter Gabriel stuff and Collins has had a few hits over the years.
 
hungryhungry123 said:
Tbh that's what I would say to someone who listed their 3 fav bands as being from the last couple of years... But I do also think that Bloc Party are something special, they have something that great bands like the smiths had, I'm just struggling to put my finger on what it is...
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Well, in another 50 years, people will still listen to the Beatles (which will be approaching 100 years old). But I'll bet now Muse/Bloc Party and Snow Patrol will be less well known and listen to.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Well, in another 50 years, people will still listen to the Beatles (which will be approaching 100 years old). But I'll bet now Muse/Bloc Party and Snow Patrol will be less well known and listen to.
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There is an argument to be made there that The Beatles became so popular partly because there were less diverse sources of entertainment available, TV was still fairly new on a mainstream level, the internet was unimagined at this point, videos (as in VHS/Beta/DVDs) etc didn't exist so it was possibly easier for them to imprint themselves on the worlds conciousness than for any subsequent bands. It is also relatively easy to be innovative when you are amongst the first few bands on the scene I'd imagine and the market is opening up with a greater disposable income than previously.

Maybe The Beatles would have been as successful if they had just started in the past ten years but I suspect that timing played a fair part in their success, this doesn't take anything away from their achievements but it is possibly a little unfair to judge other bands by the same levels. :)
 
semi-pro waster said:
There is an argument to be made there that The Beatles became so popular partly because there were less diverse sources of entertainment available, TV was still fairly new on a mainstream level, the internet was unimagined at this point, videos (as in VHS/Beta/DVDs) etc didn't exist so it was possibly easier for them to imprint themselves on the worlds conciousness than for any subsequent bands. It is also relatively easy to be innovative when you are amongst the first few bands on the scene I'd imagine and the market is opening up with a greater disposable income than previously.

Maybe The Beatles would have been as successful if they had just started in the past ten years but I suspect that timing played a fair part in their success, this doesn't take anything away from their achievements but it is possibly a little unfair to judge other bands by the same levels. :)
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I see your arguemnt about other forms of media at the time, but the only way to judge how well a band will fare is time. We'll see how much impact the current crop of bands are in 20 years.
 
Hmm confess to a general lack of knowledge regarding music but I'd put the Beatles in there, just because of the sheer diversity of the music and how well it has aged. Also I think I'd put Prodigy in there too because of the amount of chooooons they produced :p Also Queen in there too.

I suppose there's a lot of scope in the term 'best'..but in terms of hype & sales I'm gonna annoy loads of music-lovers and say the Spice Girls, because they sold mental-loads in the UK and USA and got number 1s all over the planet (:p)

And some other 5th band which could be anyone :D
 
In no order:

Napalm Death - original fasted band in the world
Lawnmower Deth :o
Killing Joke - inspired Nirvana, Ministry, NIN. etc...
Depeche Mode
The Clash
David Bowie
Joy Division
Madness
 
Raymond Lin said:
of all the bands in the last 50 years.......it's Muse, Snow Patrol and Bloc Party? Yes, they produce good music but it's nothing ground breaking. It's all middle of the road stuff, you need to look further back than year 2000.
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In my opinion, they've been better than anything I've come across as the bands listed really aren't ofs my favourite genre.

Haven't come across anything else decent.

Adum said:
Blue Light. What a song.
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Definitely :cool:
 
I'll even put mine in order ;)

1) The Stone Roses
2) The Clash
3) Led Zeppelin
4) Primal Scream (OK, Scottish but can't believe no one mentioned them yet)
5) The Rolling Stones
 
The obvious ones have been mentioned many times already, but I'm gonna go with Oceansize, a little known band from Manchester who really are quite frankly, stunningly good at what they do (think heavier Radiohead, with hints of Tool).
 
In no particular order:

Muse (Have to disagree with them being middle of the road and if any current British band is to be listened to in 20 years time, I don't see why it wouldn't be Muse)
Iron Maiden
Queen
Massive Attack
Joy Division

So difficult to list just 5 bands... there are so many great English bands
 
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I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.

Did think of Genesis but haven't really listenned to them. Forgot completely about Def Leppard though...
 
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