Biden and the UK

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I think Biden as done better than people were expecting.

But he is mostly getting a smooth ride from the media. If we look at the success of the Biden-Putin meeting, if that was Trump getting the same outcome the media would be casting suspicions on Trump saying he was being soft on Russia. But Biden literally had this BBC reporter acting like some propagandist for 5 minutes saying how great Biden was, and even how good Putin was too.
 
Well it's not a surprise he's getting a smooth ride when he's not smearing the proverbial walls with **** every few hours because he hasn't had enough attention that day.
 
BowdonUK said:
I think Biden as done better than people were expecting.

But he is mostly getting a smooth ride from the media. If we look at the success of the Biden-Putin meeting, if that was Trump getting the same outcome the media would be casting suspicions on Trump saying he was being soft on Russia. But Biden literally had this BBC reporter acting like some propagandist for 5 minutes saying how great Biden was, and even how good Putin was too.
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I watched the report on BBC news and at no point did they bang on about how great either man was.

In summary it was something like:

"The bar for this meeting was very low, and that bar was met"
 
Bizarre how peoples bias and strange grasp on reality comes up with all these garbage conspiracies. Trump was a useless arse, hence he got lots of coverage. There is no other reason. :cry:
 
I don't have any particular thoughts on Biden. I expect the new boss to be the same as the old boss, mostly.

In comparison to Trump he seems less self-obsessed. The test will be Biden's actions over time, rather than presentation.

I do find the focus on the US president- whoever he is- and his actions over UK politics a bit odd. Why are UK citizens so fascinated by it?
 
MadMossy said:
Indeed, Trump has a bro chat about grabbing someone by the bits decades ago and its the most important thing ever and how his entire campaign was judged.

Biden likes to sniff little girls and its just a quirky thing that means nothing. Some would consider that to be Jeffrey Epstein kinda weird.
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Well there is also the 27+ accusations of sexual assault and rape against Trump. Also making illegal campaign contribution payments that lawyer was convicted of and where he was "individual 1". Payments to hush up having sex bareback with a porn star, while his wife was breastfeeding at home.

I'm not going to try and defend Biden or explain why he likes the smell of kids hair. But he did lose my wife and young daughter in a car crash that also put my 2 sons in hospital for weeks. Maybe that has something to do with it, maybe not. However your attempt to compare that to the acts of a convicted sex offender are a bit sick and ironic as it wasn't Biden but Trump who spent years partying with Epstein.
 
potatolord said:
I don't have any particular thoughts on Biden. I expect the new boss to be the same as the old boss, mostly.

In comparison to Trump he seems less self-obsessed. The test will be Biden's actions over time, rather than presentation.

I do find the focus on the US president- whoever he is- and his actions over UK politics a bit odd. Why are UK citizens so fascinated by it?
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Post Brexit there was the GFA and the US was involved in that in a big way. Also all the talk of a free trade agreement and Trump was all for pushing that through which would have been a disaster for UK farmers and the NHS.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Well there is also the 27+ accusations of sexual assault and rape against Trump. Also making illegal campaign contribution payments that lawyer was convicted of and where he was "individual 1". Payments to hush up having sex bareback with a porn star, while his wife was breastfeeding at home.

I'm not going to try and defend Biden or explain why he likes the smell of kids hair. But he did lose my wife and young daughter in a car crash that also put my 2 sons in hospital for weeks. Maybe that has something to do with it, maybe not. However your attempt to compare that to the acts of a convicted sex offender are a bit sick and ironic as it wasn't Biden but Trump who spent years partying with Epstein.
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...there are so many 'my's in there. Are you Biden? :eek:
 
dLockers said:
...there are so many 'my's in there. Are you Biden? :eek:
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Haha yeah my fault for not reading it back. I originally wrote it, But then I didn't lose my wife and young daughter in a car crash that also put my 2 sons in hospital for weeks...... but then changed it but didn't change it all. One of the downsides of being dyslexic, I'm always missing typos and spelling mistakes, without spell check it would make for horrendous reading.
 
BallistixOnZ490 said:
Yet everyone loved to cry about the slightest things from Trump's past, but then choose to fully ignore anything about the Biden's.
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The apostrophe on Trump is correct because he went full on nepotism.

As far as I am aware, the apostrophe on Biden is only limited to his wife (as first lady). What his wider family do is irrelevant unless they are in a position of privileged/political status.
 
Mark Shaw said:
I wondered if this was what was happening - he'd bumble along for 12 months or so, then step down due to ill health, leaving the way open for his VP. I can't imagine Kamala'd have gotten enough votes if she'd have been running for President herself.
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Back before Obama was president, friends in the states said the general nation would vote for a black male president over a woman. Europe has had several female leaders including a young finish woman. Will the Us ever get there or continue to prefer 80 year olds.
 
I think he's over stepping the mark with regards to interfering in the NI / Brexit issue. If anything he needs to apply pressure on the EU and give his backing to the UK.
 
VincentHanna said:
I watched the report on BBC news and at no point did they bang on about how great either man was.

In summary it was something like:

"The bar for this meeting was very low, and that bar was met"
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I think it is a good thing the media as moved away from conspiracy theories regarding Russia.
 
englishpremier said:
Back before Obama was president, friends in the states said the general nation would vote for a black male president over a woman. Europe has had several female leaders including a young finish woman. Will the Us ever get there or continue to prefer 80 year olds.
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The US is such a vastly different landscape though. The UK is more meritocracy and 'left wing' in its political processes.

I had some coaching from a CEO once and he said early in his career, despite being really ambitious (and clearly on a hockey-stick trajectory), he was asked to not attend a meeting as they needed someone with a few more grey hairs to get credibility. This is how I would summarise the US political system. You need such vast experience to reign over the trillions of dollars and millions of challenges they have over there, that someone in their 40's would have needed an unprecedented level of experience or an unprecedented set of circumstances*

You can see this in the data as well, with most presidents only being elected when most folk in other sectors are just dreaming about retirement (51-55).

*refined
 
As others have said, I think that most people in my experience are not overly concerned about Biden one way or the other, just delighted that he isn't Trump and does not describe himself as a "Good friend" of Putin or Kim Jung-On.

I have three American friends (who have worked in Europe for some years) and without exception they are massively relieved that anybody at all has replaced Trump - I suspect that they would have preferred Barack Obama but there you go, he wasn't standing :(
 
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