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shauncr91 said:
It can do everything, from XC climbs to the toughest of DH courses. Bikes likes the Orange Five, Santa Cruz Heckler/Nomad etc are all mountain's.
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but if hes not doing the toughest of DH courses then why carry the extra costs and weight that a more freeride style AM bike brings ? the bikes he listed are also AM
 
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"andy" said:
but if hes not doing the toughest of DH courses then why carry the extra costs and weight that a more freeride style AM bike brings ? the bikes he listed are also AM
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No thet aren't. All mountain means they bike is designed to do a bit of everything including light DH. I don't know of any 120mm full sus bikes that are designed to do DH. 140mm travel bikes are more Trail/light AM bikes. And probably what is needed here.

Don't you love Marketing? :p
 
Murf said:
Got any examples of those for under 2k? Had a quick scan and they're looking a tad pricey! :eek:
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Forget these fools in this thread, everyone's overlooking the obvious choice here!

http://www.freeborn.co.uk/specialized-2011-enduro-fsr-comp

Pedal up all day, hammer the downhill as good as most DH bikes in the UK
Lifetime warranty, great components, within budget (ish) and you get freebies with the purchase such as a helmet/gloves and so forth if you buy from Freeborn
 
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Andelusion said:
http://www.primera-sports.com/products/specialized-323/specialized-2011-enduro-comp-8137.aspx

Not under 2k but there are a few 2010 models left (a lot in small) you may be able to find other sizes with a bit of hunting.

For that sort of money you could get an awesome second hand AM bike.
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Supercow said:
Forget these fools in this thread, everyone's overlooking the obvious choice here!

http://www.freeborn.co.uk/specialized-2011-enduro-fsr-comp

Pedal up all day, hammer the downhill as good as most DH bikes in the UK
Lifetime warranty, great components, within budget (ish) and you get freebies with the purchase such as a helmet/gloves and so forth if you buy from Freeborn
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Actually you got beaten to that suggestion, now who looks a fool :p
 
ichabod crane said:
All mountain you say? under 2k you say? I say Canyon Strive! or the Nerve AM!
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Right, here is where I need a bit of education. What's the main differences between those two bikes? The Nerve AM would be better suited to my needs due to being lighter right?

Basically, I'm going to ask lots of dumb questions till I actually understand what I'm looking at. This is a lot of money to me!

Oh, and I must stress, the limit of 2k can't be exceeded, not by a penny. :)
 
Murf said:
Right, here is where I need a bit of education. What's the main differences between those two bikes? The Nerve AM would be better suited to my needs due to being lighter right?

Basically, I'm going to ask lots of dumb questions till I actually understand what I'm looking at. This is a lot of money to me!

Oh, and I must stress, the limit of 2k can't be exceeded, not by a penny. :)
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The Nerve is more what I would describe as a Trail bike with 140mm of travel even though they call it an AM. The Strive is what I would typically call and AM bike with 160mm of travel and a much more burly build/frame and spec of components.
 
I'm with Andy. Reading between the lines, I think an AM bike would be overkill, a decent trail bike would probably be better suited. Lighter, easier to pedal and plenty decent ones in budget.
 
ichabod crane said:
The Nerve is more what I would describe as a Trail bike with 140mm of travel even though they call it an AM. The Strive is what I would typically call and AM bike with 160mm of travel and a much more burly build/frame and spec of components.
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Wait. Confused again.

Why would an 'AM' (which I thought was more geared towards cross country and a jack of all trades, master of none) require more suspension travel than a trail bike which I thought would be more geared towards descent?

Am I likely to require a much more burly frame if I'm doing red\black routes in places like Hamsterley Forest etc? I'd rather not have to deal with the additional weight if possible.
 
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xc - hardtail or light short travel FS around 100mm travel max - for plodding about the country side

trail - 120 or 140 mm travel fs, still light but with things like maxxles to stiffen it up a little, for places like trail centres etc can ride up hills and down again

AM - 150 or 160mm travel with beefy forks, bigger disc rotors, bigger bolt through axles, maybe 2 chainrings at front with a bash ring that sort of thing,- runs really good downhill but can only spin to the top in granny ring at best

DH - 180 or 200 mm travel, dual crown forks single chainring at front, needs chair lift or pickup truck !

but its all marketing B.S really! trail is enough for most people in the uk really
 
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Murf said:
Wait. Confused again.

Why would an 'AM' (which I thought was more geared towards cross country and a jack of all trades, master of none) require more suspension travel than a trail bike which I thought would be more geared towards descent?

Am I likely to require a much more burly frame if I'm doing red\black routes in places like Hamsterley Forest etc? I'd rather not have to deal with the additional weight if possible.
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gettothechopper said:
generally :

xc - hardtail or light short travel FS around 100mm travel max

trail - 120 or 140 mm travel fs, still light but with things like maxxles to stiffen it up a little, for places like trail centres etc

AM - 150 or 160mm travel with beefy forks, bigger disc rotors, bigger bolt through axles, maybe 2 chainrings at front with a bash ring that sort of thing

DH - 180 or 200 mm travel, dual crown forks single chainring at front
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As above really, pretty much identical to my thinking. An all mountain bike is going to be a little heavier but not excessively at circa 30lbs, easily manageable on long endurance rides.

Dont get to hung up on Acronyms anyway just get the bike that most fits your riding style and places you go to.
 
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Well my Cube Analog Hardtail was slightly over 13kg and that feels really heavy to me at the moment. Probably too much time on the road bike as it didn't feel that way when I first started using it.

In that case then we have the Canyon Nerve 7.0, the Lapierre Zesty 314 and the Spesh Pitch FSR Pro so far. Any more suggestions? :)

Oh, and thanks for the explanations above guys. Really appreciate it. :)
 
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The Trek you originally suggested is still a good option. I hear Giant make good trail bikes too ;)

Don't choose just on the spec though, you can have full XTR or XX, but if the suspension platform is rubbish, its a waste. The frame is a much bigger consideration on a FS bike than on a hardtail
 
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