*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***

AndyCr15 said:
You might be fine on a short ride like that but I know I really started to struggle to keep up with friends on the latter part of 3 to 5 hour rides when I was restricting calories (but not as drastically as 1,000 cals under!) I upped the calories and could really feel a difference.

Personally, I would agree with the others. Don't go so aggressive. I tend to think, be it physiological or psychological, the quick it comes off, the quicker it can go back on.
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I'm not sticking to -1000 religiously and if I was going out on a big all day ride I'd eat accordingly. It's more about my weekdays. Weekends I manage just fine really. Really it's between 750-1kg I'd like to lose each week until I'm down to 85 and then I'll take things at a better pace

I appreciate what I'm doing may not be for everyone and I may struggle but it's just how my mind works. In for a penny, in for a pound. No such thing as half a pregnancy etc.
 
AndyCr15 said:
Just be aware, I fuel fine on the day, but your body is depleted. I think I've read that it takes days to restore in advance.

Anyway, as long as it works for you.
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Oh I may spectacularly fail yet and be back telling you that all of you were correct.

I just have to dive in at the deep end because it's how my mind works. It's always all or nothing
 
Junglist said:
I'll see how I get along. I'm quite a weird eater though so mentally being a thousand under doesn't worry me too much (though if lack of energy effects my exercise i'll eat more) For context, I basically fast every day (through choice, not for a diet) until maybe 3 or 4 sometimes later.

I know what the main culprit is for me. The munchies. I can't out cycle a bad diet and I really do have a sweet tooth. If I can just cut out the late night snacks the weight often just falls off of me.

I've had 800 cals so far today. Will try and burn 400 with a bike ride after work then have a not exactly healthy but not awful take away (Sashimi)

Just want to get down to pre-baby weight. I've taken on a dad-bod when I didn't really want one :cry:
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What ever you do has to be sustainable, otherwise you're setting yourself up for failure. I've crash dieted, done keto, slimming world (with the wife) and all of them have resulted in me just putting the weight back on in the end.
Without a doubt keto was the most effective, but for me, unsustainable.
 
Junglist said:
Oh I may spectacularly fail yet and be back telling you that all of you were correct.

I just have to dive in at the deep end because it's how my mind works. It's always all or nothing
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I'm not saying it won't work and you won't lose weight. Of course, you will. I'm saying it's not a good way to do it, that's all.

Also, tbf, 'nothing' is 0 cals :p :cry:
 
AndyCr15 said:
I'm not saying it won't work and you won't lose weight. Of course, you will. I'm saying it's not a good way to do it, that's all.

Also, tbf, 'nothing' is 0 cals :p :cry:
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Well, I don't want to say you guys are right but it's taking a bit more concentration than I would like in the evenings to resist a cheeky bowl of cereal or a few biscuits...

But I've stuck to it so far and since Friday (OK it's not that long) I've managed to have at least -900. I'm quite happy I've did it over the weekend as that would likely be my weakness. On Friday I was basically 90k on the nose. This morning I'm 88.9.

It's going to take a while!
 
Junglist said:
Well, I don't want to say you guys are right but it's taking a bit more concentration than I would like in the evenings to resist a cheeky bowl of cereal or a few biscuits...

But I've stuck to it so far and since Friday (OK it's not that long) I've managed to have at least -900. I'm quite happy I've did it over the weekend as that would likely be my weakness. On Friday I was basically 90k on the nose. This morning I'm 88.9.

It's going to take a while!
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I can quite happily live on 1500kcal a day, which in theory is -1000 from the suggested 2500. Although i eat the calories back from exerecise. The problems with that approach come getting into the habit on exercise days, and then eating the same on non exercise days.

I'm certainly not a poster boy for nutritional advice though!

Following from my previous post. I made it to Monday without the usual big spike. Increase a little over 95kg but likely water weight from the extra exercise. Suspect it'll drop off during the week.

Helped by a ~23 mile bike ride Saturday and then a 7 mile run yesterday. Snacking was minimal and alcohol was more restrained (0.7 bottle of wine Friday, 3 beers Saturday, 1 beer Sunday). All days showed a slight defecit to my 1500kcal target. Although that's included the full ~1300kcal used on exercise each day which won't be accurate, so i'm pretty happy with that. Probably could've eaten more yesterday but didn't feel i needed it.

TargetExerciseRevisedConsumedNet
Friday1,5007152,215- 2,336- 121
Saturday1,5001,3012,801- 2,972- 171
Sunday1,5001,1772,677- 1,737940
4,5003,1937,693- 7,045648


What i've been impressed with is the lack of snacking. A few times last week the kids/wife would go to the shop or even worse get me to go to the shop for them, and yet i didn't get anything for myself. Not sure it'll continue, but i can be happy whilst it lasts!
 
Yeah, the snacking can make a big difference. I'm trying to hit 2,400 cals to bring my weight back down, but I've been in a habbit of a protein bar around 10am and again around 3pm to get me to my next meal. Sometimes the same in the evening around 7:30pm. Last week I pretty much cut all of these out and got some reasonable exercise in. I've dropped about 2kg over the last 10-12 days.
 
Snacking is tricky but recently I've been making stuff from scratch; usually some grated carrot, red cabbage and sliced radish coleslaw using salt, pepper, paprika, apple cider vinegar and some Skinny Food Co. golden syrup. 100 grams of each is less than 100 calories - and makes for a substantial snack/meal scratching that sweet & salty itch.
 
Is it a fools errand weighing myself each day?

Started the deficit on Friday at 90Kg. On Monday I weighed myself at 88.9Kg. Hooray, i thought. Then I weighed myself again this morning (prior to doing other... offloading you do in the morning). This morning I was 89.4Kg. Yet I've consumed less calories each day often under 1800 and fitting in a bit of exercise.

Should I just weight myself each week at a set time? I kind of wanted to do it daily to see it plot the graphs on my health app but that annoyed me a bit

I want Rome to be built in an afternoon.
 
Junglist said:
Is it a fools errand weighing myself each day?

Started the deficit on Friday at 90Kg. On Monday I weighed myself at 88.9Kg. Hooray, i thought. Then I weighed myself again this morning (prior to doing other... offloading you do in the morning). This morning I was 89.4Kg. Yet I've consumed less calories each day often under 1800 and fitting in a bit of exercise.

Should I just weight myself each week at a set time? I kind of wanted to do it daily to see it plot the graphs on my health app but that annoyed me a bit

I want Rome to be built in an afternoon.
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Your weight can fluctuate up/down by 2kg easily every day, even if you weight yourself at the exact same time after your daily poo or something else like a daily milestone.

Food type, hydration, salt intake and other factors can affect weight day by day.

By all means, weigh daily, but do it at same time, then take an average over the week.
 
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As above. There's no problem weighing daily. You just have to not pay too much attention to the daily fluctuations as they can vary wildy out of control. The body will do odd things. I've weighed myself on a Friday. Ran 50 miles over about 11 hours on a Saturday burning about 6000kcal and considerable sweat loss and then weighed myself on a Monday and was a couple kg heavier. Likewise i've had days of eating like an absolute pig and then been lower the next day.

Just need to take a review on a longer period and look at the general trending.
 
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Ace, I'll continue to stand on the scales each morning in that case. It'll just be interesting to see it tracking daily on the health app. But I'll pay more attention to what I weigh on Friday vs daily
 
Junglist said:
Ace, I'll continue to stand on the scales each morning in that case. It'll just be interesting to see it tracking daily on the health app. But I'll pay more attention to what I weigh on Friday vs daily
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It's a double edged sword, daily drops in weight, no matter how minor can keep you motivated. However just one day with a rise can cause a snack binge relapse :D
 
Daily weighing as long as you don't let one days bounce put you off is much more accurate than weighing once a week.
You could easily be having a day when you're 3lbs heavier on your weigh in day even though every other day you've been lower than your last weeks weight in which case you'd think you were gaining weight when in reality you're trending down and it's just a blip.
 
Definitely frequently, because of the swings. You need to be able to see a trend. Also, avoid times you know it will be off. I used to enjoy a kebab and chips on a Sunday evening and generally, the literal volume of food was quite big. I knew if I weighed myself Monday morning it would have 2 or 3 lbs that would be gone by Wednesday, so why bother weighing on Monday or Tuesday?

If you track in an app, it will often have the option to show you an average or a trend.
 
I'm just using my fitness pal to track my calorie intake but using Apple Health paired with my scales to track my weight.

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It's not really accurate as between March and a few weeks back I hadn't really weighed myself. But it's amusing, to me, to see. I stopped smoking around Christmas once I found out I had a new job, which causes me to stop snacking and you can see the weight drop off. Then at the end of March we went away for a weekend and I started smoking again and as you can see, the snacking picked up and the weight decided to go up along side with it! Plus with a few months of sporadic activity, I'm now the jiggly mess I am today :p

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I forgot to have my app opened when i weighed myself this morning so I'll do it again after work to at least track the weight. But the line seems to be going down so that's good enough, right?
 
As said, I wouldn't really bother comparing two individual weigh-ins. With weight fluctuating by a kilo or so, the real direction could actually be up! :cry: Can you zoom out so you get a weekly average?

With Withings, I can see this, for example -

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I think I had an odd weigh-in in July, I think it should be a straighter upward line really. Then two or three weeks back I've decided to bring it back down again.
 
Well I've only weighed myself, with the app, twice. Friday and Monday. I'll do it when I get back but also make sure I do it each morning to get more data points
But you're right. Had i weighed correctly this morning the arrow would be back up. Grr!

I need to balance the calories in though. That ride I mentioned you in the other day, I felt spent after 8km. My legs weren't hurting but i just felt like I couldn't do anything I wanted to.

Determined to stick to my plan though.
 
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