Big Fight: Mayweather v Marquez

After that tonight I wouldn't back anyone against Mayweather, unless Pacquiao destroy's Cotto I can only see one winner if Mayweather - Pacquiao does happen.

Marquez certainly belongs in the world class bracket, and Mayweather just made him look absolutely ordinary. So ordinary that you have to know how good a fighter Marquez is to realise how good a performance Mayweather gave tonight. It wasn't that Marquez never looked like bothering him, he never even looked capable of getting into a position to hurt him in the first place. All credit for that has to go to Mayweather.
 
One thing I've noticed is that perhaps this forum is willing for Mayweather to lose.

Before I knew about Mayweather, in the buildup to the Hatton fight, many people on this forum felt Hatton had a good chance. Obviously Mayweather beat Hatton hands down. Then comes the Marquez fight and once again, many people were saying that Marquez would win (scroll up this thread for proof). Mayweather then beat Marquez.

Now, people are saying Pacquiao will be able to beat Mayweather (just as they said about Hatton and Marquez).

Mayweather is careful with his opponents. He is 40-0 - which I believe is the best record currently in and around his weight class.

It is clear to me that Mayweather isnt a brawler, but a very technical boxer. In the ring, I don't believe Pacquiao will have the ability to beat Mayweather, though it will be a lot closer than last night's 1-sided affair.

Perhaps there is some hatred towards Mayweather for whatever reason or perhaps people on this forum like to support the underdog which is causing people to (irrationally, predict a Mayweather loss), but sometimes you have to be realistic and accept that he is plain and simply, the best boxer around at this point in time and probably the best of his generation.
 
Didn't take you long to be an expert on the best considering you hadn't seen him fight until Hatton and then "read up on him"

No doubt you only watched the paq man against Hatton as well.

Your critising people for saying Paq man might be able to beat him but earlier in the thread you said Mayweather would have to work very hard to beat him. So even in your well read eyes it's a close match up.

Personally I think Mayweather will as easily dominate the paq man as anyone else he's fought recently.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Your critising people for saying Paq man might be able to beat him but earlier in the thread you said Mayweather would have to work very hard to beat him. So even in your well read eyes it's a close match up.
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I have never stated that Mayweather would walk all over Pacquaio. I've seen Pacquaio fight and he is fast and has A LOT of heart. I saw a long documentary on him and his credentials are impressive, as his approach to boxing. However, the fact that many people seem to believe Mayweather will get beat (by Hatton, then Marquez, now Pacquaio), given Mayweather's record, defies logic.

You don't need to be an expert to note that Mayweather is statistically one of the best (if not the best) boxer out there, in his weight class. He chooses his opponents carefully and so far has made the correct choices 100% of the time (shown by his unbeaten record). If he steps into the ring with Pacquaio, then the statistics will favour him.
 
People will always hate the best guy in the business, especially someone who comes across as being so cocky. Mayweather is a showman, he likes to portray himself as the bad guy and almost as a villain going into these fights. I think he believes more people will be interested in watching a good guy vs bad guy fight but I believe in real life he is suppose to be quite humble and a good bloke. Usually after the matches he will say good things about his opponent.

Another thing is most people around here are English so if Mayweather had been English he would get a lot more support. Naturally you will always follow people from your own country. Look at Lewis, imo acted like a bit of a **** towards the end of his career but still liked in England.

C64 said:
Oh really well look at how competitive oscar del la hoya was against floyd then look at how pac brutalised him and made his face look like a baboons bottom.
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Then again you could say Pacman narrowly beat Marquez last year while Mayweather schooled him last night and dominated him from start to finish.
 
JAzz said:
Mayweather is a showman, he likes to portray himself as the bad guy and almost as a villain going into these fights. ... Usually after the matches he will say good things about his opponent.
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I've noticed this. Though I still believe that people have to be realistic with their predictions. Just because they don't like Mayweather or are supporting a Brit, you must accept when another boxer/sportsman is simply better.

As an example: I was a big fan of L.Lewis and strongly believed that he was the best technical boxers of his time. However, I also acknowledge that if he had fought Tyson (when Tyson was in his prime, a true brawler), the odds would've been against Lewis.
 
Wow, what a fight from Mayweather. I really wanted Marquez to do better tbh. His reach disadvantage made getting past Mayweather's defence virtually impossible. Mayweather for the first time in his career actually looked like a natural welterweight and very strong with great stamina.

Now I'm not 100% sure if Pac can beat him. One thing is for sure, hime being a southpaw will be a bigger challenge for Mayweather than most other fighters out there. I think that Shane Mosley is gonna be calling him out now that there is a lull until November when Pac and Cotto go at it. Next May is going to produce an interesting fight, but strangely, if Cotto wins, I'm not sure if Mayweather will fight him?
 
Mayweather taking on Shane Mosley should not happen. Mosley is simply not good enough or in the same league as Mayweather. Mosley may have the size advantage but I don't see what he can offer to make me think he can win. Pacquiao is the obvious choice from all there is to offer who I think will give Mayweather a test.

Just have to see what happens but hope to god its nots Mosley. He'll be 39 or maybe 40 if he steps into the ring against Mayweather.


EDIT: Who the hell was that muppet interviewing Mayweather at the end? That guy was a joke and Triple H should have through him out of the ring. The guy was trying to look cool or be the boss in front of the mic but looked a right ass.
 
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The more I think about it, Shane Williams may be the only boxer today with the style to bet Mayweather. Pacquiaou is probably too small and Cotto is too straight. Williams has high volume and a reach advantage.


As for Mosley, the guy did steriods threfore I have no interest in seeing him fight, although it would be competitive.
 
SpeedFreak said:
Wow, what a fight from Mayweather. I really wanted Marquez to do better tbh. His reach disadvantage made getting past Mayweather's defence virtually impossible. Mayweather for the first time in his career actually looked like a natural welterweight and very strong with great stamina.

Now I'm not 100% sure if Pac can beat him. One thing is for sure, hime being a southpaw will be a bigger challenge for Mayweather than most other fighters out there. I think that Shane Mosley is gonna be calling him out now that there is a lull until November when Pac and Cotto go at it. Next May is going to produce an interesting fight, but strangely, if Cotto wins, I'm not sure if Mayweather will fight him?
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Did you guys not see the post fight ring interviews? Probably not because i was watching an HBO PPV event with Max Kellerman (HBO) attempting to interview Floyd and a combination of Bernard and Sugar almost started a fight with Floyd with everyone trying to break them up.. Clearly a provocation from Goldenboy promotions to take a fight with Sugar Shane Mosley, who is IMHO the 2nd sharpest fighter out there and my personal no2 LB for LB.. He is the bigger man to Floyd, able to match his hand speed, just doesn't have as much evasiveness as Floyd thus making him probably the 1to4 favorite.

I think Pac-man should have taken the Mosley fight instead of the Cotto, but picked Cotto because he is more likely to go down and after the Margaritto beating, / Clottey fight is looking a lot more spent.
 
sunama said:
Before I knew about Mayweather, in the buildup to the Hatton fight, many people on this forum felt Hatton had a good chance. Obviously Mayweather beat Hatton hands down. Then comes the Marquez fight and once again, many people were saying that Marquez would win (scroll up this thread for proof). Mayweather then beat Marquez.

Now, people are saying Pacquiao will be able to beat Mayweather (just as they said about Hatton and Marquez).
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How is 2/12 many? most knew Mayweather would win but didn't want him to. Congrats to Mayweather for winning by forcing JMM to move up two weight classes. I'm sure if he does that to Manny then he'll easily win also.
 
Please enough with the Mayweather praise.

Yes Mayweather's defence is excellent. It's even more great when your fighting a guy two weight classes below you and you can just brush aside the effect of their punches.

Sky Sports commentary was horrible. They pretended there was no major difference in weight.


Marquez waits for the fight to come to him. By that time it was too late against Mayweather.

Pac will start throwing combinations from round 1. That fight will be so much different.
 
Don't underestimate pacman he's a very very different beast to the one who fought marquez now.
It's not that Marquez fought that bad but you could definitely tell he was fearful of the welterweight power and i think after the knockdown he just tried to keep midly competitive and last out the fight.

They said he was too small for del la hoya they said he was too small for hatton.
What you need is blistering speed to beat Floyd, pacman has that as does mosley.
Like Hatton said " he's a monster, the best in the world".
 
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C64 said:
Don't underestimate pacman he's a very very different beast to the one who fought marquez now.
It's not that Marquez fought that bad but you could definitely tell he was fearful of the welterweight power and i think after the knockdown he just tried to keep midly competitive and last out the fight.

They said he was too small for del la hoya they said he was too small for hatton.
What you need is blistering speed to beat Floyd, pacman has that as does mosley.
Like Hatton said " he's a monster, the best in the world".
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Pacman is a much better boxer than Marquez, doesn't mean he's got what it will take to beat Mayweathers defence.

To hurt the man you have to get through his bloody defence, which doesn't seem possible.
 
Having watched it just now...recorded it on sky hd...have to say Mayweather looks like he hasnt even been retired...kinda hoping for a knockout but credit to Marquez who held on for the full 12 rounds.

Couldnt help but laugh at the beef between Mosley and Mayweather camps...what a bunch of muppets...that guy who was conducting the interview lost control of that one pretty quick..

Anyhow really want to see Pac man and Mayweather fight...then the title of the best pound for pound fighter will be laid to rest...hopefully it will happen soon.
 
Johnnytoxic said:
Shane Williams :D . I've yet to see this guy.

Paul Williams mind, theres no way Mayweather would take him on. High Risk Low Reward.
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Lol, not much sleep last night, let me off! Exactly right though, the reward for beating Williams relative to the risk is low. But Williams is a freak, at his fight 147 should be impossible for him to reach but he does.
 
Spawn said:
Having watched it just now...recorded it on sky hd...have to say Mayweather looks like he hasnt even been retired...kinda hoping for a knockout but credit to Marquez who held on for the full 12 rounds.

Couldnt help but laugh at the beef between Mosley and Mayweather camps...what a bunch of muppets...that guy who was conducting the interview lost control of that one pretty quick..

Anyhow really want to see Pac man and Mayweather fight...then the title of the best pound for pound fighter will be laid to rest...hopefully it will happen soon.
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oh it will happen alright. Unless Cotto gives the pacman a beating.. May 2010 is probably when.. 7 figure payouts to both camps will be on the card.. Mayweather is having to give most of last nights earnings to the IRS.. Everything he's done so far is to lead upto the pacman fight, which he knows he'll probably win.. I bet Freddie Roach is a little worried.
 
[Cas];14925223 said:
Pacman is a much better boxer than Marquez, doesn't mean he's got what it will take to beat Mayweathers defence.

To hurt the man you have to get through his bloody defence, which doesn't seem possible.
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Unfortunatley the reach and height isn't enough. Very very few of Marquez's punches actually got in last night.. The ones that did were not even at full pelt, each one was being slipped by his famous shoulder slide.. I think a fighter with the same skillset as Joe Calazghe would stand the best chance.. Lots of peppering and hope to win on points.
 
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