Bit of a Rant about the benefit system
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I stopped right there.
Less than 0.01% of the country are eligiable for everything going!
True, because abolishing the benefit system, which employs thousands, cutting the government, which employs thousands, disbanding monopolies, which employs thousands and reducing taxes is going to create more jobs.
That is a more viable option. I found when I was claiming that there was very little in the way of training available to me. There was no emphasis on providing me with the skills to enter work, but rather the skills to search on their website and send off a CV.
True, because abolishing the benefit system, which employs thousands, cutting the government, which employs thousands, disbanding monopolies, which employs thousands and reducing taxes is going to create more jobs.
That is a more viable option. I found when I was claiming that there was very little in the way of training available to me. There was no emphasis on providing me with the skills to enter work, but rather the skills to search on their website and send off a CV.
I would love it if this was the case, even if it cost the government the same amount of money if not more!
To be honest i just tend not to think about it as it just angers me.
Ignorance is bliss!
I dislike those who say they are better off on benefits as they would earn "only £10-£20 a month more if I worked"
So what?? you have to start somewhere and it might not be great at first but you gain skills, experience and show a good example to your kids.
Instead people sit around all through life taking from others.
Benefits should be given yes, but not cash and I see no reason (not even some silly reference to human rights) why people can't have a benefit "credit" card. You can use it for travel, you have a set amount to be used for food each week which doesn't carry over.
You have set amounts for clothing and a basic entertainment allowance. No real cash would have to be given and they would be supported in everything they need, housing, food, travel etc.
If people then wanted more they would be inclined to work for it!
So what?? you have to start somewhere and it might not be great at first but you gain skills, experience and show a good example to your kids.
Instead people sit around all through life taking from others.
Benefits should be given yes, but not cash and I see no reason (not even some silly reference to human rights) why people can't have a benefit "credit" card. You can use it for travel, you have a set amount to be used for food each week which doesn't carry over.
You have set amounts for clothing and a basic entertainment allowance. No real cash would have to be given and they would be supported in everything they need, housing, food, travel etc.
If people then wanted more they would be inclined to work for it!
The government won't scrap benefits it keeps the unemployed dependent on them along with everybody else, if there were no benefits the unemployed would simply find ways to live off the grid and the government would lose power over them.
Governments don't want people living independently, the story of the native American indians will tell you that much.
Governments don't want people living independently, the story of the native American indians will tell you that much.
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A lady I work with is a single mum with one of her sons living at home. She works full time earning around £1100-1300 take home a month on top of that she gets benefits for her son being in full time education, she also lives in a council house. Recently one of her sons friend got kicked out by his mum and she has taken him in, to begin with I could understand her situation as she took him in and had to start paying to feed him ect as he does not work and was at college. But now he has been there a while and he gets job seekers allowance plus some money for accomedation or something. Obviously he is now paying her money to live there and for food. All she ever goes on about is how will she cope when she loses the money she gets from her son being in full time education...
This annoys me because there are plenty of people where I work that are in the same situation as her but because she has had so much help over the years from benefits she feels that losing this money is a really big deal...
This annoys me because there are plenty of people where I work that are in the same situation as her but because she has had so much help over the years from benefits she feels that losing this money is a really big deal...
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It isn't what the scum get that annoys me the most, it is that they truely believe that they are hard done to and the middle class have had life handed to them on a plate.
It's the young adults/teenagers aswel that they see having children as the easy path through life as they will get a flat/house so quickly and other benefits and its all of us who pay taxes ect paying for a child who has had a baby and probs never worked a day in their life....
the benefits on that wage for a single child are hardly anything to write home about.
£20 a week child benefit (same as any other parent)
she won't get working tax credits on that wage, just child tax credit
which will be about £1360 a year, so £100 a month ?
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/taxcredits/people-advise-others/entitlement-tables/no-work-child.htm
Its nothing.
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imo, single parents should have the money given by the parent does not live with counted as income.
eg// A single parent could earn £1100 a month pre-tax and get a lot of financial support, yet the parent paying support could be giving £600 a month cash-in-hand!
It does count.
you can get in severe trouble for not declaring any income to HMRC.
Child benefit is fixed regardless of income. For income based benefits ,such as working tax credits and child tax credits, they ask you how much you earn. They don't take it from your payslip.
If you then hide £600 a month you're earning from something, you'll be in big trouble and have to pay everything you claimed wrongly back.
as always with friends / neighbours, don't believe everything they tell you.
Do the searching yourself, if she's earning £1100 after tax, she won't be entiled to income support, job seekers allowance, she won't be entitled to disability allowance or carers allowance.
The only benefits left are working tax credits and child tax credits. Which at nearly £20k a year (assuming take home of around £1200) is hardly worth talking about.
Oh and child benefit of course, which is £20 a week.
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Security may not be a skilled Job but it still requires a license to do it! People they are giving the license to are not actually interested in the job at all it's just something the job centre is telling them to do!
I'm self employed and want to be in security, I saved and paid my way to get the relevant license needed, now I struggle to find as much work as before because it's now being flooded with polish, Indians all nationalities they are willing to work for minimum wage because they can't even speak the language! Now for me to find work is more difficult because of this, same with a lot of guys I know that ate in security because it's a career choice, we stuggle because it's full of people that just do it because they are told to!
And by the way security can be a technical Job and some areas can require skills!
I'm self employed and want to be in security, I saved and paid my way to get the relevant license needed, now I struggle to find as much work as before because it's now being flooded with polish, Indians all nationalities they are willing to work for minimum wage because they can't even speak the language! Now for me to find work is more difficult because of this, same with a lot of guys I know that ate in security because it's a career choice, we stuggle because it's full of people that just do it because they are told to!
And by the way security can be a technical Job and some areas can require skills!
Just think that this country used to be the most powerful in the world. It used to export products all over the world, had a huge navy, was inventive and produced people like Newton.
On a side note, I love those discussions about how children are getting smarter and this can been seen in better school results. Then you look at world education rankings to see that the UK is 17th in the world.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading
"Education, Education, Education"
On a side note, I love those discussions about how children are getting smarter and this can been seen in better school results. Then you look at world education rankings to see that the UK is 17th in the world.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading
"Education, Education, Education"
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Or Henry Lloyd jumpers, exhausts, tattoos or fancy holidays.
How about £100,000 to every ***** women that gets sterilized before she has any kids? I bet they'd take the money.