Blackberry 9900/9930

I do buy too many phones but I love to fiddle with them. I've yet to find one that I've been fully happy with, though the iPhone 4 is just about 'there'.

I do intend to sell them though but I don't really like using eBay so try and flog them cheap(ish) to family members and friends, etc. :p
 
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I've never owned a BB either but I love how it's 'always on' and seems to have the best push notifications of any phone. As I'm a big user of e-mail, twitter & facebook this is going to be great :)

Honestly iOS and Android are "always on" too and they all share the same push system - it's not special and hasn't been for a very long time. Also the twitter/fb clients are much better on the other OSes (iOS especially), If you're buying a £500 device I wouldn't buy it for these reasons. BBOS is very far away from iOS and Android in design and goals, I always highly advise people to try one in person before buying (especially one aimed at the business market like this one).
 
Honestly iOS and Android are "always on" too and they all share the same push system - it's not special and hasn't been for a very long time. Also the twitter/fb clients are much better on the other OSes (iOS especially), If you're buying a £500 device I wouldn't buy it for these reasons. BBOS is very far away from iOS and Android in design and goals, I always highly advise people to try one in person before buying (especially one aimed at the business market like this one).

I'm very much aware of all that but I still want to try one properly and over time, not a faff about in a shop!
 
I have had a quick fiddle in Vodafone the other day to make sure the screen was big enough for my liking and that I get on the keyboard.

It will be a nice change since having nothing but an iPhone for the past 3 years
 
I've been having a read of CrackBerry this evening and the American people on there are driving me mad.

They keep calling a CASE a 'holster'... it's not a gun for god sake!

:p

Its a holster you numpty because it sits on your belt...like a gun does when you holster it;):p
 
Honestly iOS and Android are "always on" too and they all share the same push system - it's not special and hasn't been for a very long time. Also the twitter/fb clients are much better on the other OSes (iOS especially), If you're buying a £500 device I wouldn't buy it for these reasons. BBOS is very far away from iOS and Android in design and goals, I always highly advise people to try one in person before buying (especially one aimed at the business market like this one).

They may very well be on but their idea of 'push email' is completely different to what Blackberry churns out plus their push email system is excellent on the battery whereas iOS and Android arent so much.

Hell im always showing people just how faster my BB is at getting emails than my iphone4...so i wonder why if they all share the same push system as you stated, why my BB fetches my emails quicker than the iphone4 does and they both are on wifi with full signal strength.

Also the twitter and FB apps for BB's have had a major update so are no longer that bad...

I will agree with you that BB OS is ancient and OS7 is just a minor upgrade to OS6 which was an upgrade to OS5 which then in turn was an upgrade to OS 4.5....im hoping that by next yr the new QNX phones will be out so im kinda in 2 minds about buying the 9900 now...i still have mine on pre-order but may cancel it and hang fire till the next batch of BB's come out...my 9780 is serving my needs well at the moment.
 
Its a holster you numpty because it sits on your belt...like a gun does when you holster it;):p

It still sounds silly! :p

Don't cancel it, there are no set dates for the next BlackBerry and you must want a touch screen, surely! I couldn't live without one.

You wouldn't be a real BlackBerry fanboy if you didn't get one! ;)
 
LOL i know it does lol.

Of course there are no set dates but tbh as much as i like the 9900, im having second thoughts about it...ill mull it over for a few more days but most likely ill still end up getting one.

Im blackberry through and through:p...death to iOS and the almighty Android:p:D
 
But but but, if you don't get one we can't be (real) BlackBerry buddies... :(

*cringe* :p

I've gone right off Android to be honest with you, it's good (for some people) but iOS still trumps it. You get stabbed for saying that in this particular forum though, lets hope no Android soldiers wander in here by accident! :eek:
 
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After giving my old work BB back (which as the person who put all the BES infrastructure in had some special policies for a select few to allow extra email accounts on the device :) ) I had an android handset for a week or so.

tried setting up my home email accounts on there and it was nowhere near as good as when I had them setup on the BB.

Had to set a polling interval rather than it being true push, and even then it wasn't consistant.

Also just prefer how the BlackBerry handles things, it's a really slick process.

But none of that matters if that's not what you want from a device and totally see why people would not want one.

As for BB OS7, yeah it's nothing revolutionary, but I've never massivly cared about that sort of thing as long as it does what I want it to, how I like it to :)

I will be getting one of these but still want to wait to see what other deals operators come out with.
 
I hope nobody minds me going slightly off topic. But Robbo, since you have owned both iOS and Android devices, can you please explain why you think iOS trumps it? Also why you think BBOS will be good for you? Or is it just for a play about?
 
But but but, if you don't get one we can't be (real) BlackBerry buddies... :(

*cringe* :p

I've gone right off Android to be honest with you, it's good (for some people) but iOS still trumps it. You get stabbed for saying that in this particular forum though, lets hope no Android soldiers wander in here by accident! :eek:

LOL:p...well im no expert but the guys at crackberry, some of them really know their stuff about BB's...thats where i get all my info/news from etc.

As for Android??...the only thing i like is their hardware specs and thats about it...the OS itself does sweet FA for me in all honesty...i honestly prefer my iphone4 over all the androids ive had and used.
 
After giving my old work BB back (which as the person who put all the BES infrastructure in had some special policies for a select few to allow extra email accounts on the device :) ) I had an android handset for a week or so.

tried setting up my home email accounts on there and it was nowhere near as good as when I had them setup on the BB.

Had to set a polling interval rather than it being true push, and even then it wasn't consistant.

I honestly don't get it, Android 2.2+ supports exchange push as does iOS - consistency will be down to the exchange server / your phones ability to get data just like in BES setups. Setting up your mail accounts on all other OSes is exactly the same including Symbian - mail server/user/pass. Were you expecting some other magic?
 
I hope nobody minds me going slightly off topic. But Robbo, since you have owned both iOS and Android devices, can you please explain why you think iOS trumps it?

Sure.

I'll make it clear first of all that I like Android, but the 'special' things that it offers are largely a bit of a farce considering it's a phone.

Look at it this way, on Android, you unlock the phone and then if you want to check the weather, you look at a weather widget. Often, when you unlock the phone, it takes a second or so to update (if it updates at all). In that time, you could have pressed the weather button on iOS and viewed it already as it loads almost instantly. You can apply that logic to the majority of widgets, sure, they make the home screens look nice but ultimately who cares about that? You get your phone out to do something on it, not to glide around home screens patting yourself on the back.

I don't mind iTunes either, Android offers nothing like it at the moment and despite people saying it's rubbish, it's a big selling point. It's a hub to manage and purchase all forms of media, and it works well, even if it may be a bit laggy on slow, old computers. Also things like the automatic phone backup when you connect your phone are great, I'm sure that has proved invaluable to many people over the years.

The web browsers are similar in general, the Google Webkit browser probably edges it but it wouldn't sway me either way. You can argue until the cows come home about how you NEED Flash on your phone, but again, do you really? Is it that important? It isn't as bad as Apple say but it isn't particularly good on a touch screen, it doesn't feel right or operate flawlessly.

Overall, Android feels inconsistent and in places unfinished. HTC Sense helps fix this issue to some extent.

There is simply no comparison between the two app stores. I was waiting since the days of the HTC Hero for the Android app store to vastly improve, and while it has, it is still quite some way off. Apps that are available for both platforms are nearly always better on the iPhone, everything just looks more professional and clean.

As Spawn has just said, the main draw of Android for me is the hardware some of the phones come with, it's excellent. Look at the Samsung Galaxy S II, superb specs and performance, then you turn it on and "oh, it's Android again".

Back when the HTC Desire was out, I really liked Android, I thought it was far better than iOS but I was wrong, it does more or less the same function but it just feels 'cheap' when doing it. It's also generally not as reliable, people often complain their alarms don't go off and things like that, it's all very well having open software but that increases the damage you can do to it.

I've seen people arguing the plus points of Android saying things like "well, if I had an iPhone I couldn't connect my Wii remote to it..." Your Wii remote? SERIOUSLY? Who cares.

I think the iPhone 5, with the iPad 2 internals (most likely) and a 4" screen and no doubt excellent design will be the phone to get. iOS 5 offers several good improvements that bring certain elements of the iOS functionality (like the notification system) closer to Android, yet even they feel more fluid and polished.

I seriously do not understand the blind hated for Apple, you would think they were a Nazi-regime the way some people go on. I think they just have trouble understanding the benefits of the ecosystem and why their marketing is so excellent.

I've tried all the top Android phones (and have most of them), I like the bigger screens too... but it's back to the iPhone 4 once more.

Also why you think BBOS will be good for you? Or is it just for a play about?

Well, my main phone uses are (in order) -

Web browsing
Email
Text messaging
Phone
Camera/video

It should handle all of those things (obviously I'm not expecting much from the camera) quite well, and as I mainly browse forums I often have the keyboard open so the screen size probably won't bother me.

The BlackBerry also looks to be a lovely design, I really like it. I'm expecting to be impressed.

It's also just for a play about, I'll see how I get on with it.
 
I honestly don't get it, Android 2.2+ supports exchange push as does iOS - consistency will be down to the exchange server / your phones ability to get data just like in BES setups.

And if you're not using an exchange based email account? ;)

Remember I'm talking about personal accounts on a BB here, not running through a BES. My previous usage of a BB whilst through a BES also allowed me to use personal POP3 via BIS alongside, which is what I'm wanting to do.

My personal email accounts are not exchange based accounts thus the device can support exchange till the cows come home, doesn't help me with my accounts :)

A BB setup using BIS email on my pop 3 accounts means they work on the device near on as good as if they were exchange accounts for speed etc, never had a problem with them.

Setting up your mail accounts on all other OSes is exactly the same including Symbian - mail server/user/pass. Were you expecting some other magic?

Not with the BB though, just a case of logging into my operators BIS portal, whack in my email address and password, and that's it.

I just found the POP3 experience on Android not as good as the BIS experince on a BB and required a lot more fiddling to get it working how I wanted.
 
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So, I got mine today, still haven't opened it yet.

early upgrade. £41 a month, 900 mins, unlimited texts and 500mb of data.
(going try an blag 1gig as I had previously)

Paid £144 for the upgrade.... im not if it was a wise move but hell with it, i love my BB's. And this upgrading from a 9780!
 
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