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It is said that the GB202 "Blackwell" GPU will be physically monolithic in design and from the earlier reports, we know that it is expected to feature twice the number of SMs and cores as GB203 which is a more cut-down die for the likes of the GeForce RTX 5080. That will form a huge disparity in the performance between the two cards but the RTX 5090 is shaping up to be a complete beast.
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While NVIDIA has solutions to overcome the bottlenecks such as NVLINK and other interconnects, they might get a little bit expensive as they add to to the complexity of the GPU.
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I read that as what the 4080 is to the 4090, a huge difference in performance. So am fully expecting the 5090 to once again be the halo card of the lineup, with the 5080 continuing where the 4080 left off.

Once again, I can't see the 5080 being anything less than 4090 pricing, leaving the 5090 to hit the £2k mark as many have predicted.

The 5080 needs to have over 16GB VRAM either way, it will be a 4K card and we have games that use nearly 20GB of VRAM even at 3440x1440 - If it has anything less than 18GB VRAM then that's a duff move. Though we've seen nvidia walk back their mistakes in the past in terms of VRAM and "UN-announcing" a card so who knows what they will goof up with 50 series.
 
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AthlonXP1800 said:
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 GPU To Feature A Massive Monolithic GB202 "Blackwell" Die

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5090 flagship GPU is going to feature a massive & monolithic GB202 "Blackwell" die, reports Kopite7kimi.
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Hmmm massive monolithic die and 3 PCBs? Could it be massive monolithic die with chiplet-esque design under the hood?
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And 3 PCBs on different levels/planes within the cooler. Lmao RIP custom water cooling

I assume AIB cards would still be a single large PCB otherwise AIBs could be in some trouble with having to copy Nvidia's cooling design
 
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mrk said:
I read that as what the 4080 is to the 4090, a huge difference in performance. So am fully expecting the 5090 to once again be the halo card of the lineup, with the 5080 continuing where the 4080 left off.

Once again, I can't see the 5080 being anything less than 4090 pricing, leaving the 5090 to hit the £2k mark as many have predicted.

The 5080 needs to have over 16GB VRAM either way, it will be a 4K card and we have games that use nearly 20GB of VRAM even at 3440x1440 - If it has anything less than 18GB VRAM then that's a duff move. Though we've seen nvidia walk back their mistakes in the past in terms of VRAM and "UN-announcing" a card so who knows what they will goof up with 50 series.
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Quoted for the lols.

Weird how I am managing with 12gb. What are these games that need so much vram?

Personally I think it will be 16gb and be cheaper than a 4090. But we will see. Might have 20gb or something.
 

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mrk said:
I read that as what the 4080 is to the 4090, a huge difference in performance. So am fully expecting the 5090 to once again be the halo card of the lineup, with the 5080 continuing where the 4080 left off.

Once again, I can't see the 5080 being anything less than 4090 pricing, leaving the 5090 to hit the £2k mark as many have predicted.

The 5080 needs to have over 16GB VRAM either way, it will be a 4K card and we have games that use nearly 20GB of VRAM even at 3440x1440 - If it has anything less than 18GB VRAM then that's a duff move. Though we've seen nvidia walk back their mistakes in the past in terms of VRAM and "UN-announcing" a card so who knows what they will goof up with 50 series.
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The 4080 sales were terrible at $1200 so I can’t see Nvidia asking $1600 for a 5080 which would likely have similar or slightly less performance than a 4090 if Nvidias plan is to sell into china like we keep hearing.

If Nvidia wants a large price increase on the 4090 then the the way they usually do it is by tiering up and adding a new higher tier of card, 2080ti > 3090 +$400 for example so a 4090 could become a 5090ti for $2000 and people would say we are now getting an even higher performing ti version so a $400 increase is worth it.

Nvidia could then release a cut down 80/80ti version renamed as the 5090 to slot in at $1600 so people think Nvidia is not increasing prices again although this would have to be on the GB202 die to pass off.
 

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Personally I think it will be 16gb and be cheaper than a 4090. But we will see. Might have 20gb or something.
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For me so far it's GB203 for 5080 w/16GB (maybe even slightly cut-down for a future Super version on the same chip), the full GB202 (32GB+) for AI and professional (big money!!) and a cut-down GB202 for 5090 w/24GB and 384-bit bus. Time will tell.
 
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For me so far it's GB203 for 5080 w/16GB (maybe even slightly cut-down for a future Super version on the same chip), the full GB202 (32GB+) for AI and professional (big money!!) and a cut-down GB202 for 5090 w/24GB and 384-bit bus. Time will tell.
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Yep. This makes sense to me. But they are known for surprising us at times so who knows.

What I do know is if they price it silly I will be just keeping my 4070 Ti. They basically need to improve price for performance otherwise I am not going to upgrade.

The way mrk is talking he thinks price for performance will not improve, therefor more performance will mean more money. Could happen, has done before. But generally that is not the case.
 

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And 3 PCBs on different levels/planes within the cooler. Lmao RIP custom water cooling

I assume AIB cards would still be a single large PCB otherwise AIBs could be in some trouble with having to copy Nvidia's cooling design
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EKWB, HOLD MY BEER!

Get 3 waterblocks in 1 to cool this monstrosity for a mere price of $1000! exc shipping and custom costs
 

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Yep. This makes sense to me. But they are known for surprising us at times so who knows.

What I do know is if they price it silly I will be just keeping my 4070 Ti. They basically need to improve price for performance otherwise I am not going to upgrade.

The way mrk is talking he thinks price for performance will not improve, therefor more performance will mean more money. Could happen, has done before. But generally that is not the case.
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Cant fault the 4070ti especially if you can get it for around 600 or less.
 

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Founders Edition GPU Gets Dual-Slot & Dual-Fan Cooling Solution

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5090 Founders Edition graphics cards are going to feature a more compact cooler than the RTX 4090 Founders Edition.
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Founders Edition rumored to feature dual-slot and dual-fan cooler - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA RTX 5090 slimmer than 4090 Kopite7kimi corroborates on next-gen RTX 50 cooler rumors. Last week, it was revealed that the NVIDIA RTX 5090 PCB will be more complex than the RTX 40 series. Instead of featuring a single board, the RTX 50 series will use three interconnected boards. This...
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Interesting, RTX 5090 Founders Edition cooler will be more compact used dual slots than both RTX 3090 and RTX 4090 coolers used triple slots.
 

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Unlikely but I'd be happy to be surprised

For two slots you can only cool about 225watts without excess noise and temps

So Blackwell is either twice as efficient as Lovelace despite not being on a new process node, or Nvidia has made an air cooler that far more efficient than other air coolers, or people are confused and two slot is a 5070/5080 or it's just fake news
 
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