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Jay85 said:
I think personally nvidia learnt from the unlaunch of the 4080 12gb so this time they will do it right... to justify a 5080 12gb and 16gb. Making the gap bigger between 5080 and 5090 will give a spot for the 2 5080 variants also assuming the 5090 will be close to 1800, so a 5080 12gb could launch at 1000 and a 5080 16gb at 1200-1300.
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Anything over 1000 that isn’t on the 102 die won’t sell well and if they price the 5090 near 2k then that probably won’t sell well either unless it has a huge performance increase over the 4090.
 
Benofacter said:
meh, so they basically pushing enthusiasts down the 5090 route hard then....wonder why :rolleyes:
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When they can sell something that's roughly 30% bigger to corporate customers for more than $30k rather than $1.6k they charge gamers you can understand why.

Even more so with lower tier cards, why use their allocated amount of silicon to make five hundred RTX 4060's that sell for £300 each when they can make five hundred RTX 5000 ADA's, slap a few extras on it, and sell roughly the same size of silicon die for $4k.
 
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Benofacter said:
meh, so they basically pushing enthusiasts down the 5090 route hard then....wonder why :rolleyes:
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well we will see, because to pull that off it has to deliver the goods
imho one of the primary reasons the 4090 has done so well is because the 3090 was so dire (value wise) and the raw performance jump was substantial.... Will a 5090 do that vs. a 4090 once you strip away marketing fluff?

I don't know that it will, unless we get mGPU which I don't think Nvidia want to sell to retail consumers.

So the long and short of it is imho Nvidia isn't pushing enthusiasts at all, they don't care and they don't need our business. We will get something that you can take it or leave as far as they are concerned...
 
BigBANGtheory said:
well we will see, because to pull that off it has to deliver the goods
imho one of the primary reasons the 4090 has done so well is because the 3090 was so dire (value wise) and the raw performance jump was substantial.... Will a 5090 do that vs. a 4090 once you strip away marketing fluff?

I don't know that it will, unless we get mGPU which I don't think Nvidia want to sell to retail consumers.

So the long and short of it is imho Nvidia isn't pushing enthusiasts at all, they don't care and they don't need our business. We will get something that you can take it or leave as far as they are concerned...
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A 3090 was 55% faster than a 2080ti for 25% more money so not exactly dire, if a 5090 was 55% faster for 25% more money so 2k do you think people would bite?
 
Cannot compare last gen to current gen in that sort of context though. People keep forgetting that whilst the 3090 existed at crazy price for its time, the 3080 did too and cost what half the 3090 whilst only being a few % behind in performance with less VRAM too?

Whereas no other 40 series came even remotely close to the 4090 so its crazy price for its time was wholly justifiable. Even today what 2 years after launch, there isn't any card that can beat a 4090 from any vendor. Even Nvidia haven't refreshed it like they have all of the other 40 series range.

We will see the exact same again for the 5090 vs the rest there's little doubt at this point given that Jensen himself said last year on the record that cheaper prices are a thing of the past and to get used to it. The only difference this time being that the gap between 4090 and 5090 won't be as massive as the gap between 3090/Ti and 4090. Kind of reaching silicon peak now anyway and power draw levels. Maybe Rubin will change all that given its code name, a galactic shift in technology/engineering.
 
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