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And that is why I don't think you will be seeing a 4090 for under £1000 after the 50 series launch when general realisation sets in and people wonder wtf at NV's new prices lol.
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Second hand prices probably will drop to close £1k though. We have seen that happen everytime with previous flagship nvidia gpus
3070 came out - 2080ti were going for £500 or less on here
4070ti came out - 3090 were going for <£900/800 on here
If 5070/5080 offers 4090 level perf for £1000+, expect 4090 second hand to drop, no one in their right mind would pay the premium for an old 4090 when you could get a new shiny 5070/5080 for around £1k.
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There has never been a performance gap as wide as on the 40 series, so applying previous NV card used sales logic to 40 series doesn't really apply as this is all new ground now. Will be interesting to see what does happen though.
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i think prices will be maintained, the markets seem to have forced their hand, or there wouldnt have been a midcycle super refresh
either that or jensen isnt really keen on selling in the consumer segment.. 50 series launch will be an interesting casestudy on organisational transformation
either that or jensen isnt really keen on selling in the consumer segment.. 50 series launch will be an interesting casestudy on organisational transformation
In the past I sold older GPU and bought new every 2nd gen at first, then every gen. With crypto craziness happening I always gained more monies on selling older GPU, so it costed me nothing to upgrade (actually, I got on plus) for many years. Finally 4090 was the first one I had to actually add a bit of monies to (partially FOMO!) and it was a big jump in perf as well. Now, unless I can get a really big perf upgrade, I don't even think about upgrading that, FOMO or not.
Paying these kind of prices make one think twice to see if it is worth it or not. As is now, I rather upgrade CPU first, GPU is plenty fast but I can see CPU bottlenecks now and then, even in my resolution.
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TLDR?
Used 4090's won't be under £1000?
Man of Honour
Yes it is all just clickbait.... BUT BUT kopite7kimi said it so must be a fact.........
Reminder of one of his so called facts too and more on his twitter if he hasn't deleted them.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti, the flagship reinvented
The last 3090 was 2 slot or was it 3 slot as well? Wow! It was 3 slot as well. I don't remember that. I thought it was 2 slot with a thicker heatsink. Dang!
forums.overclockers.co.uk
Basically said no NVLINK on 3090ti that he originally said was a 3090 Super.... as we know now they had NVLINK as did the 3090 and was a Ti not a Super as he said... just his made up clickbait..
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Pretty much no one has real info these days on nVidia, one of the reasons I've been posting a lot less in here. They've considerably tightened up on stuff like NDAs and very rarely do game developers/studios or general level staff at AIBs, etc. get unrestricted access to new stuff and when they do get access to newer hardware it is usually very "black box".
My guess is kopite7kimi at some point worked for or interned at nVidia or one of the AIBs or foundry partners but no more, as some of their older info was definitely insider stuff but in the last couple of years it has mostly been guesswork.
My guess is kopite7kimi at some point worked for or interned at nVidia or one of the AIBs or foundry partners but no more, as some of their older info was definitely insider stuff but in the last couple of years it has mostly been guesswork.
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Lakers usually have insider sources, who prefer to stay anonymous (otherwise their boss would rip them a new one), hence often leaks are on purpose vague and not exactly accurate to make it harder to find said source. However, they are never at the very top so they only get a glimpse of some information and not the full picture. Only really top people know usually what the final product really will be and that can change till very last moment (like pricing and naming etc.). With that in mind, no matter how good intention, leaks about GPUs or CPUs can never provide accurate picture, as it's simply not possible anymore.
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Yeah. That's why I don't go on those days rumour sures no more. Waste of time. Plus people post it on here anyway.
I just think it will be what it will be. Time flies so will find out soon anyway.
Things are completely different these days - I've dabbled in game development including a small amount professionally and loads of internal/private game testing over the years, mostly early 2000s and made quite a few friends/acquaintances along the way including nVidia's gaming team(s), id Software, Splash Damage, Dynamix, Activision, Gainward, etc. and I can say for a fact that 99% of "leaks" these days are entirely BS - information just isn't out there like it used to be and/or people who are in the know are in a far more regulated and/or professional situation where it just isn't worth leaking anything.
Meh, as always ignore the names and just look at the price/perf and perf/watt of any card.
I'm looking for the best I can get in a <250W envelope for the 5000 series, regardless of them naming it 5070/80/90.