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I think it's a matter a taste, I for one was very glad the 335d on the F30 is xdrive only. It really isn't that intrusive and it makes a huge different in anything but perfect bone dry road conditions. Makes perfect sense to not offer RWD.
The only disadvantage was the ridiculous SE height suspension, but nothing a set of AC Schnitzer springs fitted by BMW won't fix, with any impact on warranty.

I only hope they don't do the same as on the G30 and not offer the twin turbo 6 cylinder diesel in the UK. :(
 
That is gopping. The front....I don't have the words. The grille proportions look way off as does what I can only describe as an underbite!
 
Thanks for the replies both.

I've driven it four times since, circa 60 miles in total, and every time the same issue has occured (it definitely seems to be when it shifts down two gears at once, i.e. 4th to 2nd, 5th to 3rd or whatever, it seems to go bad then). After turning the car off and on, it immediately rectifies the issue.

No leaks as far as I can tell. Anyone know where to check the transmission fluid on the E39? Is it a difficult job to check and or replace?

I'll check the codes with my OBD reader tonight. I've only owned the car since Sept 2017 and driven less than 10k miles, in my ownership it's never been checked or changed, but I definitely wouldn't know prior to that as I bought it from an indie garage.
The fact the issue disappears after switching off an on would suggest an electrical issue rather than a mechanical problem with the gearbox, I’d get the battery checked and replaced if necessary - low voltage can and will trigger the “Trans Fail Safe” message / program, my own e38 started doing this prior to me changing the battery - it’s not done it since - otherwise look into changing the fluid in the transmission, it’s not a DIY prospect tbh unless you really know what your doing, look for a specialist who has a Sykes ATF flush machine, it works on the same principle as kidney dialysis but for your automatic transmission, it’ll get 99% of the old fluid out which a conventional pan drop and filter change won’t.

What kills these boxes is firstly BMW’s claim they are “sealed for life” it’s complete marketing rubbish - ZF (who make them) recommend a fluid change every three years(!) and offer it as a service themselves or will point you toward a ZF approved service centre.

Secondly, mixing old fluid with new, the box really does not react well to this so don’t simply top it up.


As I say though firstly check the battery although I’d still get the fluid change done - it’ll cost you ballpark £250 - £300 if it’s done properly - it’ll transform the gear changes and be appealing to future buyers if you can provide evidence it’s been done and done properly.

Edit: To check the fluid level you need to have the car up in the air,garage ramps ideally, it must be LEVEL.
On the side of the gearbox at the rear you will see a plug which takes a hex key.
Start the car up put it in 'N' undo the plug and some fluid should run out - on my e38 which has the same gearbox I’d say about a thimble full dribbled out when I checked it - , if it does then the level is correct if not it needs to be investigated as you most likely have a leak somewhere, this isn’t necessarily serious though as you have to remember your cars 17 years old so it’s quite likely it’s lost relatively little fluid but over a long period of time, if there’s no obvious signs of fluid loss I’d personally not worry about it too much replacing the fluid and filter is by far the best answer and solution and as I say do NOT simply top it up as old and new fluid is not good with these boxes imo.

Once done the gearbox should outlive the car rather than being the reason for its early demise.
 
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When is the new 3 series out? Personally I wont really miss RWD on the 340i, I am no race driver or drifter that would notice the loss.

For me its absolutely not about that - infact if anything the less keen a driver you are the less you want xDrive.

I don't drive around dumping 260bhp on the tarmac every time I pull away from a junction in the pouring rain so xDrive offers me very little benefit. It does, however, harm fuel consumption, increase tyre wear and increase weight and complexity.

I have no traction issues with my RWD 530d so xDrive brings only negative factors for me.
 
These increases are... marginal at best!
Tyre wear hardly changes, if anything it becomes more balanced. Unlike torsen quattro, the xdrive efficiency penalty is also less than 10%. As for the increased weight, we're talking... 50-70kg at most for a 1800kg car, some electric seats and a sunroof probably weight more! :D

On the same logic of "not dumping 260bhp on the tarmac" you're better off getting a G30 520d. I know NVH will never be the same, but surely the gap is becoming signficantly smaller today? Or if you're never pushing the car, might as well get a FWD, no?
Don't get me wrong, I was of the same opinion until I got taken out by a dealer in a Golf R. What used to be throttle feathering in my remaped 330D with Conti CS6's, this guy pretty much planted his foot through a roundabout and the car didn't even blink. It's amazing how much more fun you can have in wet/greasy roads with a decent 4wd system. One of the main reasons why I now have a quattro and why 90% of future cars I'm considering are 4wd.

The purists cringed when the G30 and E AMG were announced with 4wd systems, yet the reality is that 4wd is the future and it's here to stay.

The fact the issue disappears after switching off an on would suggest an electrical issue rather than a mechanical problem with the gearbox, I’d get the battery checked and replaced if necessary - low voltage can and will trigger the “Trans Fail Safe” message / program, my own e38 started doing this prior to me changing the battery - it’s not done it since - otherwise look into changing the fluid in the transmission, it’s not a DIY prospect tbh unless you really know what your doing, look for a specialist who has a Sykes ATF flush machine, it works on the same principle as kidney dialysis but for your automatic transmission, it’ll get 99% of the old fluid out which a conventional pan drop and filter change won’t.

What kills these boxes is firstly BMW’s claim they are “sealed for life” it’s complete marketing rubbish - ZF (who make them) recommend a fluid change every three years(!) and offer it as a service themselves or will point you toward a ZF approved service centre.

Secondly, mixing old fluid with new, the box really does not react well to this so don’t simply top it up.


As I say though firstly check the battery although I’d still get the fluid change done - it’ll cost you ballpark £250 - £300 if it’s done properly - it’ll transform the gear changes and be appealing to future buyers if you can provide evidence it’s been done and done properly.

Edit: To check the fluid level you need to have the car up in the air,garage ramps ideally, it must be LEVEL.
On the side of the gearbox at the rear you will see a plug which takes a hex key.
Start the car up put it in 'N' undo the plug and some fluid should run out - on my e38 which has the same gearbox I’d say about a thimble full dribbled out when I checked it - , if it does then the level is correct if not it needs to be investigated as you most likely have a leak somewhere, this isn’t necessarily serious though as you have to remember your cars 17 years old so it’s quite likely it’s lost relatively little fluid but over a long period of time, if there’s no obvious signs of fluid loss I’d personally not worry about it too much replacing the fluid and filter is by far the best answer and solution and as I say do NOT simply top it up as old and new fluid is not good with these boxes imo.

Once done the gearbox should outlive the car rather than being the reason for its early demise.
Interesting, one thing to bear in mind is that there are mixed opinions on the transmission flush, especialy for old cars. The main reason being the particles in the old oil that serve as protection to a now worn gearbox. Getting rid of all of those and replacing it with fresh oil can have unintended consequences.

Also worth noting that ZF themselves recommend only draining the oil and replacing it (in part of course) and NOT using flush machines. I'm not saying that there's a universal truth, I fully agree that "sealed for life" is nonsense, but bear in mind opinions are mixed when doing flushes.
 
I was the same with RWD you adapt to the traction available, it’s only when you switch to xdrive for a period of time you get used to the traction go back to RWD and the blinking traction light gets very annoying.

Tyre wear is similar with xdrive as it’s more even so you don’t have the issue of having mixed tyres as you are changing all 4 at the same time.

335d owners are getting 30-35k on the original set of tyres I would be on my 3rd set of rear tyres and nearing the fronts by 35k on a 530d.

On the fuel consumption front I’ve noticed little difference 335d or 530d both managed 54mpg on the same 800mile round trip. Both with a low 40mpg average although I didn’t have the 335 for an extended period of time.
 
Interesting, one thing to bear in mind is that there are mixed opinions on the transmission flush, especialy for old cars. The main reason being the particles in the old oil that serve as protection to a now worn gearbox. Getting rid of all of those and replacing it with fresh oil can have unintended consequences.

Also worth noting that ZF themselves recommend only draining the oil and replacing it (in part of course) and NOT using flush machines. I'm not saying that there's a universal truth, I fully agree that "sealed for life" is nonsense, but bear in mind opinions are mixed when doing flushes.
I hear what your saying but base my comments on a conversation I had with ZF (Nottingham) about two weeks ago, they specifically advised against just a pan drop & filter change and recommended a flush to ensure as much of the old fluid was removed as feasibly possible bar a complete transmission strip down - they recommended Leek Transmission Centre in Staffordshire to me as they are local and on speaking to them Leek Transmission Centre said the same thing that a flush was the best solution!

Mixed opinions indeed! :D
 
I hear what your saying but base my comments on a conversation I had with ZF (Nottingham) about two weeks ago, they specifically advised against just a pan drop & filter change and recommended a flush to ensure as much of the old fluid was removed as feasibly possible bar a complete transmission strip down - they recommended Leek Transmission Centre in Staffordshire to me as they are local and on speaking to them Leek Transmission Centre said the same thing that a flush was the best solution!

Mixed opinions indeed! :D
Yep, I'm not questioning your statements, I just remember this bit on their website. We're probably not helping the poor guy, unfortunately this topic isn't clear cut at all.
https://www.zf.com/unitedkingdom/en...s_corporate/how_to_change_oil/change_oil.html

What is clear cut is that transmission fluid should be changed every 100k km (~60k miles) and is certainly NOT lifetime as BMW advise... :(
Also worth having a look at this old thread here: http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/527361
 
Yep, I'm not questioning your statements, I just remember this bit on their website. We're probably not helping the poor guy, unfortunately this topic isn't clear cut at all.
https://www.zf.com/unitedkingdom/en...s_corporate/how_to_change_oil/change_oil.html

What is clear cut is that transmission fluid should be changed every 100k km (~60k miles) and is certainly NOT lifetime as BMW advise... :(
Also worth having a look at this old thread here: http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/527361
Indeed - it’s a nightmare of conflicting advice - even from the manufacturer!

I remember that thread and would love to do what he did, alas, my other half’s idea of a trip overseas doesn’t include a gearbox overhaul! :o :D
 
Just popped into BMW as my lower rubber strips / seals that run along the bottom of window or top of doors look extremely perished with the car been 16yr old so its time to replace those.

For pieces of rubber the prices is a bit crazy, all 4 pieces is £117 for the regular satin finish which I've ordered.

But maybe I am mad because I am considering taking the gloss black version (shadow trim) and the price for those, well not much change from £400. :eek:

Car gets the upper surrounds wrapped gloss black tomorrow, so will decide then, but I can see myself getting the gloss lowers too, will still freshen the car up no end. :)
 
Lifetime is 100k. Not the car life
First of all ZF says 100k km, not 100k miles. Second of all BMW offer no such service for gearboxes, which is ridiculous. My F30 was sold at 130k+ miles with full dealer history always serviced on the basis of "whatever it needs". No mention of gearbox oil service at any point.
Are we supposed to scrap them when reaching 100k miles?
@Scania - I did consider it as well but quite a bit of a faff! Ended up selling the car anyway.
 
Thanks for the (conflicting) advice guys! :D

Drive home was interesting, 12 mile commute but I kept it in manual mode the entire way home and as such, stopped the car shifting more than one gear at once. Due to this, no problems at all... no lights, no poor shifting, nada.

I'll take my reader down in the morning but will it read anything if the light isn't on?

Checked for leaks again and I can't see anything. How do I check the battery health?

Thanks again :)
 
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