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Caporegime
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I've got a serious itch for an e60 M5 or M6. That engine hehe. It would barely do any miles as I've got a van and the 335i. Man maths says it shouldn't loose any money in a few years time surely only go up in value.
Be under no illusions how much they cost to run, @Gibbo found this out recently.
 
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Be under no illusions how much they cost to run, @Gibbo found this out recently.

Yeah iam well aware I just dunno if it's worth it. The tax and insurance as well for it to do 2k miles a year Max. Something with a Lotus badge would make more sense and the gearbox puts me off although it wouldn't be driven around town heh.
 
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Well, I still have not purchased a car yet, I was looking at a series 1, but being I'm 6ft 4 it felt too cramped for my liking. SO currently looking at a nice comfy 5 series.

Took my friends 2017 530D for a spin, and while its a comfy drive I felt very underwhelmed. :( I thought being it's a 3ltr, it would have a little more poke.
 
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Well, I still have not purchased a car yet, I was looking at a series 1, but being I'm 6ft 4 it felt too cramped for my liking. SO currently looking at a nice comfy 5 series.

Took my friends 2017 530D for a spin, and while its a comfy drive I felt very underwhelmed. :( I thought being it's a 3ltr, it would have a little more poke.

The G30 530d has 265bhp. It has plenty of poke for what it is - it'll do 0-60 in 5.7 seconds and 155mph. How much faster do you want a diesel saloon car to be?

It is, however, very refined - which is the point. There will be far less sense of speed and acceleration than there will be in a smaller, slower car.

It does strike me that you really don't know what you want and are in danger of spending a seriously large amount of money on a car you eventually end up not liking anyway.

I don't think its possible to sensibly consider both an M240i and a 530d in the same car purchasing decision. They are too diferent, somebody for whom a 5 Series is ideal (Hello! That's me) would get fed up of a 2 Series in a few weeks. Somebody for whom the M240i is absolutely great would find the 5 Series dull....
 
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Can you stop using 0-60 like it’s all that matters.

There are no other comparable performance metrics published by the manufacturer. It's pretty much the only one that is uniformly published by every single car manufacturer for every single variant of every single model they make. I agree it's an annoying metric but what else do we have?

If you can get the global car industry to move to a better benchmark - and then retrospectively apply it to every model of car they've made - I'll be more than happy to switch to that. Let me know when you've managed it :p
 
Soldato
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Surely for someone unable to choose between an M240i or a 530D, cars like the 330D/335D/340i are worth considering? Seems odd to pick between 1/2 Series or 5 Series.
 
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The issue is, cheap small fast cars are easy to come by, but if you want comfort and size too, you're looking at things like the M5, which means far greater costs in general. :(

Newer M340i/340d perhaps...
 
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He said he wants speed, but also old man refinement. Not much more old man refinement than a 7 Series with beige leather and silver switchgear :p

It'll probably feel even slower than the 530d despite not being so. It strikes me that it isn't outright performance he wants more an exciting feel.

Which as much as I like this sort of car, I don't think it's going to offer him.

I still think an M240 is the answer here. Basically the same inside as a 3 or 4 Series, a fantastic engine and if that doesn't feel quick and fun enough for him I give up :D
 

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Maybe Audi is better as the interior quality of the A3 is better than an F 2 or 3-Series.
RS3, S3, TTS, etc..
 
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