Does BMW do like Audi and have option "packs"? Surprised it's not there somewhere.
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BMW and M Power Owners
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How silly of me. We've had this conversation before though, sorry! Just seems crazy they spec super ultra black pack instead of useful things.
I just don't find adaptive cruise that useful because our roads are so packed and it can't account for all the dumb stuff that drivers do these days. Speed limiter + actually driving the car is just as relaxing IMO although to be fair all my experience with adaptive cruise is with VAG products not BMW
Yes, it did. https://www.partridge-bmw.com/used-cars/13867316-bmw-4-series-440i-m-sport-gran-coupe/
I'm going to test drive this one on Sunday. https://www.sytner.co.uk/car-search...a8ddba3a434ed45e3158ce80d67f&ictd[siteId]=617
What's your real life mpg so far? Presume it varies depending on driving mode it's on?
@DB_SamX
I've done about 4500 miles in the year I've owned my 440i GC...
2.5 mile trip to work = 17-23 mpg depending on mode (comfort/sport) and traffic
urban mileage = ~22-26mpg on average
motorway mileage = 35-43mpg depending on speed and traffic
I've done about 4500 miles in the year I've owned my 440i GC...
2.5 mile trip to work = 17-23 mpg depending on mode (comfort/sport) and traffic
urban mileage = ~22-26mpg on average
motorway mileage = 35-43mpg depending on speed and traffic
I know it's what they cost at the moment but please take a pause to consider whether you really want to spend £26,000 on a 5 year old example of a car introduced over a decade ago. They are great cars but they are just such bad value at the current prices and IMHO they are most at risk from a serious value correction when things begin to improve.
If you're going to spend that sort of money on an F model 3/4 Series, it has to be an M3/M4 IMO. They can be had from AUC for £30k~.
Being an M car, they'll be less likely to face the sort of sudden depreciation that the normal models will, as Fox mentioned.
One example, only 15k miles: https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/202110258861612
Being an M car, they'll be less likely to face the sort of sudden depreciation that the normal models will, as Fox mentioned.
One example, only 15k miles: https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/202110258861612
Thank you. Point noted. What's the uplift heen in the last 2 years? 10%?
And does that poor value apply to M2XX/F22 models too atm?
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Must be at least that. 2 years ago I was looking at the market to get an idea of what to save, and F3X 40is were circa 21~23k from memory for a decent example.
Those same cars, with more miles, and being older by 2 years, are going for the price you’re now looking at.
i bought my 03/2018 440i GC for £24k via AUC a year ago (53 weeks to be exact)
via dealer, you'd expect to pay £30-32k for the same 18 reg 440i GC today
so i'd probably say more like 40% increase for the 440i GC taking into account that the car is actually an extra year older, and should technically have an extra year's worth of "depreciation"
The 4 Series Gran Coupe is the hatchback version of the 3 Series saloon. Which means that fundamentally, other than a few tweaks here and there and a newer version of iDrive, a 2017 440i GC isn't all that different to a 2011 335i. A car that, whilst good, appeared 11 years ago. Almost £30k seems like really poor value - normally you'd be expecting a 4-5 year old version of a car thats been around over a decade to be perhaps £10k or more less than they currently are unless it was a special model, like the M Power cars.
Once you're at almost £30k it probably isn't all that much more of a jump into a current 3 Series - a car that is thoroughly more modern and completely different in every respect other than the badge on the boot. At this point you need to ask yourself if those extra 2 cylinders - which is really all you're getting over a G20 3 Series - are worth the considerable downsides to buying a car like this at this sort of prices. Something that even I, a well known cylinder count snob (I bought a diesel to avoid 4 cylinder BMWs!) would probably concede that they are not. Yes, it sucks, but this is not a normal market and therefore normal car buying considerations are on hold for now.
Once you're at almost £30k it probably isn't all that much more of a jump into a current 3 Series - a car that is thoroughly more modern and completely different in every respect other than the badge on the boot. At this point you need to ask yourself if those extra 2 cylinders - which is really all you're getting over a G20 3 Series - are worth the considerable downsides to buying a car like this at this sort of prices. Something that even I, a well known cylinder count snob (I bought a diesel to avoid 4 cylinder BMWs!) would probably concede that they are not. Yes, it sucks, but this is not a normal market and therefore normal car buying considerations are on hold for now.
I appreciate the detailed feedback on the value.
I was again not enamoured by the 440i GC I drove today; it definitely wasnt as good an example as midweek's. The M240i keeps attracting me instead but may hold out for a bit then and see how the market behaves.
I was again not enamoured by the 440i GC I drove today; it definitely wasnt as good an example as midweek's. The M240i keeps attracting me instead but may hold out for a bit then and see how the market behaves.
Any reason you don't fancy an M4?