BMW and M Power Owners

"Eco Pro" and "Sport+" feel completely different (as you'd expect). Eco Pro dulls down the throttle response so much that you feel like you're driving an X5 with the engine from a 116D, either that or the Stop/Start has already killed the engine despite you having become stationary in traffic 0.000001 millisecond ago, leaving you without the means to pull forward when it starts moving moments later. Sport+ comes with a friendly warning that traction control has been turned off (why? Is a 120D capable of going sideways at a roundabout? Might have to find that out...), makes the steering feel like White Dee has just sat on your bonnet, and downshifts you a gear. Strangely, it leaves the gearbox in "D" however, so after pressing the button 12 times to go into Sport+, you then need to shift the gearstick to the left to put that into Sport. Annoying. As always, the ZF8HP is incredible.

There is no reason I can think of to drive a 118d in Sport+ mode, all it is is Sport mode with no DSC. You can make it put the gearbox in Sport if you wish - the Sport buttons functionality is user configurable from within iDrive.

There wasn't a button on the steering wheel to skip tracks from my phone, although I'll say that the wheel for selecting a radio station combined with the display in the instrument cluster worked quite well.

Weird, the wheel that did the radio should do the tracks when in Bluetooth mode.

although it's basically CIC with a fancy skin on it.

I think this is testament to just how right they got CIC, especially after the dire previous versions. It was brilliant, so future versions have just built on it rather than revolutionised it.

I put a bottle in the cupholder but they had to find another cupholder to put the weird rubber thing in. Speaking of the rubber thing, the car is keyless go but not keyless entry, so you get the key out of your pocket to unlock the car, get in, then you're left sitting there without somewhere to put the key. BMW realized this so put a little rubber thing in the cupholder in the shape of a key so you can put it there, instead of like my E92 where it goes in the dash. That's technical progress right there.

Once you get used to it (I had the same view as you before I got mine) it begins to make perfect sense. Unlock car, place fob in pocket, forget about fob. It's great. So great then I now spend too much time sitting in the Mini pressing the start button wondering why it wont start or getting half way across the carpark before realising the reason why I can't find the key is because it's still in the Mini...
 
Easier to just put your fingers in your pocket and press the unlock button without getting it out, no?

Keyless start has always struck me as a bit superfluous without keyless entry, or anywhere to put the key (putting it in to the dash and pressing it makes sense), but I love having both.
 
Easier to just put your fingers in your pocket and press the unlock button without getting it out, no?

Keyless start has always struck me as a bit superfluous without keyless entry, or anywhere to put the key (putting it in to the dash and pressing it makes sense), but I love having both.

Keyless start is fine without keyless entry. Unlock car while walking up to it, put key in pocket, forget about it.

The F10 has a little slot in the cup holder area for the key, so if I have it in my hand it just gets popped in there.
 
Anyone had any experience with Pilot Sport 3's? My rears are almost on the indicators. Would rather renew before the 'winter' hits.

I am tempted to try Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta... Thoughts?

Note, I do a LOT of miles. I live in the country, commute via A road and motorway and drive to central London. So a good all round mix of driving style.
 
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Anyone had any experience with Pilot Sport 3's? My rears are almost on the indicators. Would rather renew before the 'winter' hits.

I am tempted to try Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta... Thoughts?

Note, I do a LOT of miles. I live in the country, commute via A road and motorway and drive to central London. So a good all round mix of driving style.

I've about to replace the PS3's on the back of my E46 330ci. They're not bad at all, I can't say I've had any scary moments or had them step out unexpectedly. Would use them again for sure.
 

For a 330d,

Front: 225/40 R18
Rear: 255/35 R18

I've about to replace the PS3's on the back of my E46 330ci. They're not bad at all, I can't say I've had any scary moments or had them step out unexpectedly. Would use them again for sure.

Aye, I'm hearing the same echos. Think my mind is almost made up.

I might get all 4 corners done actually.
 
^^ Or even the Eagle F1 Asy2's that get better reviews than the PS3 - £113 each for the rears, £79 for the fronts (plus delivery on top). I'm hazarding a guess, but I can't see the PS3's being much cheaper.
 
[TW]Fox;28629820 said:
Once you get used to it (I had the same view as you before I got mine) it begins to make perfect sense. Unlock car, place fob in pocket, forget about fob. It's great. So great then I now spend too much time sitting in the Mini pressing the start button wondering why it wont start or getting half way across the carpark before realising the reason why I can't find the key is because it's still in the Mini...

But that's an extra step to put the fob in your pocket. Admittedly I only had the car for 24 hours so didn't exactly have time to get used to it, but I found I'd unlock it, get in, then sit there with a key in my hand. When I borrowed dad's car that's keyless everything that was just a pleasure to use, key stayed in my pocket the entire time, pulled on the handle to unlock, pressed button to start/stop, then pressed the little button on the door handle to lock it. Seems silly to have one without the other.

Have the M3 back now, and I'm in two minds as to whether or not I received good service. When I used to service my E46 there it was dire, no interest from any of the staff whatsoever, basically had a card machine chucked at me along with my keys and the staff seemed in a constant rush. With the M3, everyone has been courteous, didn't make me feel like they had to rush off to serve another customer and were happy to have an adult conversation with me with a smile, basically they acted and treated me like a human. Perfect. The counter argument is that upon collecting the car I was told "We're going to have to get you back in soon, as part of the service on M cars we change the DCT oil but there's currently none in the country." I booked this in over a month ago, did literally no-one think "Oh, we need extra oil for this car"? If they didn't have that oil, did they have any 10w60, or have I got 5w30 like a normal petrol E9x?

At least the original owner of the car purchased a service pack, so all this has cost me £0.
 
But that's an extra step to put the fob in your pocket.

It's an extra step to put it into the dash, too :confused:

Admittedly I only had the car for 24 hours so didn't exactly have time to get used to it, but I found I'd unlock it, get in, then sit there with a key in my hand.

I used to do the same and there are probably posts from me whinging about how stupid it is from before I got my F10. Once I'd got one and used it daily though the problem goes away to the extent that actually I really like it.
 
Have the M3 back now, and I'm in two minds as to whether or not I received good service. When I used to service my E46 there it was dire, no interest from any of the staff whatsoever, basically had a card machine chucked at me along with my keys and the staff seemed in a constant rush. With the M3, everyone has been courteous, didn't make me feel like they had to rush off to serve another customer and were happy to have an adult conversation with me with a smile, basically they acted and treated me like a human. Perfect. The counter argument is that upon collecting the car I was told "We're going to have to get you back in soon, as part of the service on M cars we change the DCT oil but there's currently none in the country." I booked this in over a month ago, did literally no-one think "Oh, we need extra oil for this car"? If they didn't have that oil, did they have any 10w60, or have I got 5w30 like a normal petrol E9x?

At least the original owner of the car purchased a service pack, so all this has cost me £0.

Was this at Stephen James ? I haven't noticed any difference in the service I have got between the non M and M car. Always been quite good so far (touch wood).
 
Anyone had any experience with Pilot Sport 3's? My rears are almost on the indicators. Would rather renew before the 'winter' hits.

I am tempted to try Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta... Thoughts?

Note, I do a LOT of miles. I live in the country, commute via A road and motorway and drive to central London. So a good all round mix of driving style.

Did 16k on the vreds in my 335d, and had 5+mm left on them when I sold them. Couldn't fault them. They are a little more expensive now mind.

In other news, my tracking must be off on the 530d. Had a blow out on the motorway the other day because the tyre had worn down so much right on the edge. It's a real shame as there was a good 5mm across the rest of the tyres.

Anyway, one blew out, and the other was VERY close. So had to change 2 of them. If I wasn't so much in a hurry and on the way daaan saaaf, I could have arranged them cheaper but as it was, drove to the nearest BMW dealership and got skinned £600 sheet for two tyres. Ouch.

Anyway, despite the hatred for RFT's in general, I was very happy I had them. When the tyre blew we barely felt a thing. Slight wobble and a warning on the dash. Pulled over, checked all tyre pressures, obviously the one that blew wouldn't take any. But then drove to BMW at 50mph without incident. Was worth the extra coin just for the lack of hassle experienced, and I guess the safety factor with my wife and kids in the car.

Happy to put them on again. But £300 a tyres is a bit much for a family car, lol.
 
Yea why bother checking your tyres when you have runflats, better to just never look and run then until there is so little tread they just burst.
 
[TW]Fox;28631462 said:
It's an extra step to put it into the dash, too :confused:

Yes but I can do that step once I'm in the car, if I forgot to put it in my pocket before getting in then it's just awkward, putting things in jeans pockets whilst seated isn't the easiest thing to do.

Was this at Stephen James ? I haven't noticed any difference in the service I have got between the non M and M car. Always been quite good so far (touch wood).

Yeah Stephen James in Ruxley. I don't think it was so much the M/non-M distinction, more being a 20 year old having your 12 year old 3 series given a value service, compared to having your 3 year old M3 given a normal service and inspection.


One other negative of the car, I couldn't fit my shotguns in it without putting the rear seat down, how inconvenient.

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Yeah Stephen James in Ruxley. I don't think it was so much the M/non-M distinction, more being a 20 year old having your 12 year old 3 series given a value service, compared to having your 3 year old M3 given a normal service and inspection.

Possibly, but saying that I was 23 with a 10 year old Z4 and the new car is not that much newer and I'm not that much older, maybe I've just been lucky so far (Expect a car to be dropped on mine next time it goes in now).
 
[TW]Fox;28631815 said:
Yea why bother checking your tyres when you have runflats, better to just never look and run then until there is so little tread they just burst.

Yep, exactly.

Absolutely that was my lax attitude. I do regularly look at / check my treads. But I did manage to miss the extreme wear on the inside at the rear of the car. I'm going to blame the "even" 5mm across the rest of the tyres, but obviously know it is still absolutely my fault for not being thorough enough.

My point was more about how they performed in this situation though.

Quick pic...
 
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