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Coast to coast "run" and "M3" and 30+MPG are not things that should be put together in the same post 
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Hahaa! Tell me about it! Who knew these cars would be so good on fuel if you can resist hard acceleration and unecessary braking.
M3, the whole package.
M3, the whole package.
Soldato
Went from Maidstone to Chichester and back yesterday using the A272 on the way there and the A27 on the way back, and improved my average MPG from 16.2 to 16.8 in the M5 (didn't reset the OBC) - but that included a spirited drive (that A272 is a great road). It's almost frugal!
Soldato
I got 12 months included with mine, but I was told that when I was negotiating.
Interesting.
Rybrook actually specifically mentioned it at the time when negotiating, however Sytner haven't mentioned it at all, other than they need the insurance documents to pay the VED.
With buying a used car privately, you'd be expected to pay for it yourself on the spot. What if I wanted to pay monthly? I don't, but that's not the point. Why are Sytner paying for the VED anyway, shouldn't I do this when I pick it up?
If they've already paid for it, can't I just plead that I didn't know any better and that they'd be fronting the cost?
Caporegime
I bought my Volvo from Sytner and paid VED on the spot from their computer.
Got a 330e for the day. (Have one on order, expected June).
Spec is normal sport with leather, parking cameras, split folding and privacy glass. Weight advantage over the X5 40e I tried before makes a huge difference to both performance and economy.
My commute is 25 miles, about 7 miles either side of A roads and trudging through Bath traffic in the middle. Typically achieve 31mpg in my Z4 3.0si (pretty good imo). Anyway I managed 119mpg today! Incredible, the X5 did 55mpg. That included 2 proper overtakes on the NSL twisty bits and lots of hilly areas which it actually managed mostly on electric, something the X5 gave up on very quickly. Also arrived with 15% battery remaining.
Performance wise it's adequate, the real problem is the throttle response / gearbox response compared to a nice NA petrol + manual. You have to anticipate what it's going to do and sort of get your intention across before you actually go for the manoeuvre else you sit there bogged down for a couple seconds before it wakes up.
Any specific questions let me know.
Spec is normal sport with leather, parking cameras, split folding and privacy glass. Weight advantage over the X5 40e I tried before makes a huge difference to both performance and economy.
My commute is 25 miles, about 7 miles either side of A roads and trudging through Bath traffic in the middle. Typically achieve 31mpg in my Z4 3.0si (pretty good imo). Anyway I managed 119mpg today! Incredible, the X5 did 55mpg. That included 2 proper overtakes on the NSL twisty bits and lots of hilly areas which it actually managed mostly on electric, something the X5 gave up on very quickly. Also arrived with 15% battery remaining.
Performance wise it's adequate, the real problem is the throttle response / gearbox response compared to a nice NA petrol + manual. You have to anticipate what it's going to do and sort of get your intention across before you actually go for the manoeuvre else you sit there bogged down for a couple seconds before it wakes up.
Any specific questions let me know.
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[TW]Fox;29308973 said:
I don't know as I haven't managed to deplete it yet. I think you'd be hard pushed to outside of track driving honestly. It won't let you get below 2%, and it regens very quickly/easily.
In theory you're right, it will be just a 184bhp petrol at some point, but I think it would be very difficult (and maybe impossible via software) to actually fully deplete the battery.
[TW]Fox;29309028 said:
Not necessarily as it recharges so easily/frequently.
I suppose if you drove on Max E-Drive for ~25+ miles without slowing or re-genning at all (ie on a perfectly flat straight road with no other cars), the battery would get to 2% then petrol would kick in. Then if you booted it in Sport so it boosted with the electric, it would run out pretty quick yes.
The point I was trying to make was in real life it's not going to happen often, only in very specific and lab like scenarios.
It really feels to me like the 'future' for petrol cars. I would love this exact setup in a Z4, basically a perfect car imo (assuming economy is a vague concern). Another few years developing these systems and slap it in the M3/M4 that would be an incredible piece of kit. I really really hope i8 values somehow fall through the floor.
Trip from this mornings commute, no bs'ing here.
Trip from this mornings commute, no bs'ing here.
Soldato
Wow, didn't expect the 330e to be anywhere near that good in real world use.
It's heavily dependant on your journey length. It sort of has the opposite efficiency curve to a normal car, in that shorter the journey the better. Tbh I expected less than this, was hoping (and budgeted for) 60-70mpg so very happy.
I drove for 14 miles around Bristol centre last night and achieved even higher MPG. Unfortunately the in-car display is capped at 99.9 (what a stupid design choice this was!) and I only realised this morning with the phone plugged in and app running you could get more info from the 'Eco Pro Analyser'.
Soldato
So cylinder 3 and 6 have had a new injector,plug and coilpack and the new injectors coded. (all had new NGK plugs)
3 and 6 are still misfiring on start up. This is reading the cylinder smoothness values on a proper machine. Both Cylinder 3 and 6 go into the + values (up to +6.xxx) which is when the car gets a big missfire.
I have 4 more new injectors here but this has put a bigger spanner in the works with 3 and 6 still acting up, so i am not wanting to put the other 4 in now incase the problem still persists meaning ive chucked money at it for bugger all.
Anyone got any ideas? Maybe electrical? Someone mentioned a BMW update as the ECU controls the start up procedure.
The internet is literally littered in threads about the same symptoms as mine. After the car sitting for 8+ hours and then starting it the car will vibrate for 2 min with a loss of power if driven, then after that 2 minutes the car runs 100% perfect, not even the slightest of misfires. Leaky injectors would make perfect sense and the solution to most of these problems is new injectors. Just doesn't make sense that my 3 and 6 are still the only ones misfiring on a cold start even if i haven't replaced 1,2,4 and 5 aswell.
Fancied seeing if anyone on here has any ideas before i book it into BMW. Which i reckon will just say plugs/coils/injectors.
Stormster, you know when i said i haven't had any Big bills yet, well thats gunna change lol, ****in thing.
3 and 6 are still misfiring on start up. This is reading the cylinder smoothness values on a proper machine. Both Cylinder 3 and 6 go into the + values (up to +6.xxx) which is when the car gets a big missfire.
I have 4 more new injectors here but this has put a bigger spanner in the works with 3 and 6 still acting up, so i am not wanting to put the other 4 in now incase the problem still persists meaning ive chucked money at it for bugger all.
Anyone got any ideas? Maybe electrical? Someone mentioned a BMW update as the ECU controls the start up procedure.
The internet is literally littered in threads about the same symptoms as mine. After the car sitting for 8+ hours and then starting it the car will vibrate for 2 min with a loss of power if driven, then after that 2 minutes the car runs 100% perfect, not even the slightest of misfires. Leaky injectors would make perfect sense and the solution to most of these problems is new injectors. Just doesn't make sense that my 3 and 6 are still the only ones misfiring on a cold start even if i haven't replaced 1,2,4 and 5 aswell.
Fancied seeing if anyone on here has any ideas before i book it into BMW. Which i reckon will just say plugs/coils/injectors.
Stormster, you know when i said i haven't had any Big bills yet, well thats gunna change lol, ****in thing.