BNP

KaHn · 24 Apr 2006 at 00:39

zain said:
Snip

http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005/man_menu.htm

For a start look at their policies before declaring all they want to do is get rid of any one "non" british, if you haven't understood already a pakistani (sp?) born in england, wales or scotland is still british.

The present regime is engaged in a profound cultural war against the British people, motivated by the desire to create a new ethnic power base to replace the working class which they have abandoned in pursuit of their enthusiasm for globalisation, justified by a quasi-Marxist ideology of the equality of all cultures. We intend to rebuild the basis of democracy in Britain, which is the right of all free-born Britons to debate in public the facts as they see them by restoring true freedom of speech to Britain.

I for one think the BNP has the wrong end of the stick but they do make a good point, saying they are all lazy racist people is totally wrong and you are being more like them than you would probably like to admit.

KaHn

Sleepy · 24 Apr 2006 at 00:40

Maxi said:
I'm the opposite, the BNP getting into power is the one thing that would KEEP me in this country.

So your hatred of immigrants is going to make you emmigrate to another country thereby becoming what you hate, hmm is it me or is their a flaw in your logic?

KaHn · 24 Apr 2006 at 00:40

reflex said:
I said it would never happen, mind you if there are anymore Rebel attacks against the UK by extremists i can see a lot of people being sucked in by the BNP.

As I ahve said not enough people will take on the BNP way of thinking, their policies are far too far fetched.

I think a lot of big parties will change their policies if that did happen.

KaHn

Zefan · 24 Apr 2006 at 00:41

KaHn said:
you are being more like them than you would probably like to admit.KaHn

Couldn't agree more about that.

zain · 24 Apr 2006 at 00:45

KaHn said:
I like fish

KaHn

Its just cover mate, all cover. They are just a set of thugs using educational strategies to get a big image, even the ex BNP leader said this. Its a well known fact they and NF are one, believe what you want though.

KaHn · 24 Apr 2006 at 00:47

zain said:
Its just cover mate, all cover. They are just a set of thugs using educational strategies to get a big image, even the ex BNP leader said this. Its a well known fact they and NF are one, believe what you want though.

If you cant form your own arguments, you can blow me.

KaHn

Zefan · 24 Apr 2006 at 00:48

KaHn said:
If you cant form your own arguments, you can blow me.

KaHn

Whereas you can blow me all the time

KaHn · 24 Apr 2006 at 00:50

Zefan said:
Whereas you can blow me all the time

:s

KaHn

zain · 24 Apr 2006 at 02:51

KaHn said:
If you cant form your own arguments, you can blow me.

KaHn

Its not that, its just a worthless endless argument thats all.

edit

blow you? as in sucky sucky? no ty thats wooooode :eek:

PinkPig · 24 Apr 2006 at 07:06

I daren't think what might happen is the BNP ever get a significant amount of power. I think it's enormously unlikely - completely impossible at "the next election" - I imagine there would be a very concerned international reaction as much as anything else. Not sure I want the US declaring war on us!

afraser2k · 24 Apr 2006 at 09:17

If the BNP came into power the British public would suddenly wake up and realise that voting does matter. There would then be calls for popular demonstrations from students/ethnic minority groups, so a possible situation like in the Ukraine recently.

Either that or we would have a sudden housing collapse as more council housing became available as immigrants were thrown out of the UK and the middle-class would demand compensation in some form.

dirtydog · 24 Apr 2006 at 09:21

ElRazur said:
Should the foreigners, immigrants and minority ethnics be worried?

Don't worry, the BNP won't win an election so you are safe

Wayn0r · 24 Apr 2006 at 09:28

I think as KaHn has said, people need to read the website and get a fuller understanding of what the BNP's policies are, then make comment.

I havnt read the website

but i will say, that i believe in being english, and i disagree with being disallowed to call myself this in my own country and being called a racist.

cleanbluesky · 24 Apr 2006 at 09:37

Chronos-X said:
The BNP's point is a racist one (please please please don't ask for 'source' )

The burden of proof can be a pain sometimes cant it...

The BNP have seen a rise in popularity as a result of tolerance of Islamic nationalism. When you see Londoners being blown up in a religious/political statement and death-threat protest over a cartoon, and the subsequent softly softly approach that followed then you start to ask yourself what is really in your best interests and whether current ideas and concepts are That Which Will Keep You Safe

wordy · 24 Apr 2006 at 09:39

ElRazur said:
Ok, when you hear the name British National Party, what comes to your mind? I tend to think along the line of fear of immigrants, racism etc maybe im wrong but that's what comes to mind. Now i imagine if they win, there's gonna be loads of problem in that area.
If they have a manifestios i dont know but im sure they have a plan.
I idint put it in sc as it always riddled with people slagging each other off once you dont share their view.

You were slagged off in SC because of your biggoted views on Homsexuals, you said that they shouldn't have any rights, and they should be cured of being gay by developing drugs to give them!

As far as I'm concerned you exactly the same as people in the BNP. The only difference is that they don't like immigrants, and you happen to be one.

I bet if they expressed strong anti gay views you'd agrree with that though

cleanbluesky · 24 Apr 2006 at 09:43

wordy said:
You were slagged off in SC because of your biggoted views on Homsexuals, you said that they shouldn't have any rights, and they should be cured of being gay by developing drugs to give them!

As far as I'm concerned you exactly the same as people who vote for the BNP. The only difference is that they don't like immigrants, and you happen to be one.

I bet if they expressed strong anti gay views you'd agrree with that though

BNP anti-homo views are less severe than ElRaz's - but what else do you expect... people adopt the attitudes that are in their own interests on the whole, anyone who makes a 'moral decision' on such issues obviously believes they live in such opulence that their safety is secure regardless political decision

ElRaz wouldn't vote BNP because he's an immigrant, I expect he would vote a pro-immigrant party like Labour - I'm native so it could be more within my interests to vote BNP whereas it wouldn't be to vote Labour

KaHn · 24 Apr 2006 at 09:50

cleanbluesky said:
ElRaz wouldn't vote BNP because he's an immigrant, I expect he would vote a pro-immigrant party like Labour - I'm native so it could be more within my interests to vote BNP whereas it wouldn't be to vote Labour

As I tried to point out this is one of the main problems with people who vote, they pick one topic and vote on it accordingly for personal gain, the BNP are well known for their rules on immigration but no one looks at their other policies.

I too think E|raz should stop jumping the gun and actually look at the policies and what will happen if they are brought into account, I think no party in the UK has everything down at the moment, just lesser of evils.

KaHn

cleanbluesky · 24 Apr 2006 at 10:16

KaHn said:
As I tried to point out this is one of the main problems with people who vote, they pick one topic and vote on it accordingly for personal gain, the BNP are well known for their rules on immigration but no one looks at their other policies.

I too think E|raz should stop jumping the gun and actually look at the policies and what will happen if they are brought into account, I think no party in the UK has everything down at the moment, just lesser of evils.

KaHn

That's a very fair appraisal TBH - the BNP are more than their standard stereotype image there can be a lot of reasons for voting for a minority party and those that think it is only about getting their leader into a position of power over the entire country or bust do not understand politics.

An increased BNP vote could possibly produce a MASSIVE political shift in the other parties and send a huge message to Labour. There is only one single way to sting the ruling party and that is hit them at the ballot.

There is a good chance that if the BNP or other minority parties were to get a significant portion of the votes then mainstream parties would be forced to change the manner in which they behave and we could all be winners

Personally I would reccommend voting for whoever the greatest threat to Labour is in your area.

Arcade Fire · 24 Apr 2006 at 10:20

cleanbluesky said:
...those that think it is only about getting their leader into a position of power over the entire country or bust do not understand politics.

Personally I would reccommend voting for whoever the greatest threat to Labour is in your area.

Some might say that choosing your vote purely because you don't like the party currently in power is indicative of somebody who doesn't understand politics!

KaHn · 24 Apr 2006 at 10:22

cleanbluesky said:
Personally I would reccommend voting for whoever the greatest threat to Labour is in your area.

Check the voting for my area labour are here to stay, I think we need to remove the 3 main parties from the running as they have too much "slack" and can get away with not keeping to policies.

I think we need to remove the "one party in power" and form a local goverment for each major county and have an elected leading body which is not backed by any to control the country.

This way we could see local issues being dealt with by people who actually care about the problems where as the larger ones can be dealt with on a whole.

Thats just my view any way.

KaHn