Boris and the burka

[wunkley]

What kind of a test is that? This is straight from the "liberal" immigration policy:

Q: Did Abdel attempt to murder the assessing officer?
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+=== NO : Fine, upstanding citizen; immediately allow entry to UK
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==== YES: Some minor behavioural issues, likely be resolved after successful integration with UK society

You forgot the mandatory 3rd option for any liberal 'assessment'

==== PREFER NOT TO SAY.

Rationale being we don't want to oppress Abdul (come on spell it right you daft racist) with a binary choice.

 

[angel102]

What kind of a test is that? This is straight from the "liberal" immigration policy:

Q: Did Abdel attempt to murder the assessing officer?
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+=== NO : Fine, upstanding citizen; immediately allow entry to UK
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==== YES: Some minor behavioural issues, likely be resolved after successful integration with UK society

It wasn't a test, it was a question, and it related to his mistaken belief that all the Muslims(or even most of them let's concede) will try to violently take over the world and create a caliphate to replace all the worlds governments and religions because an article once said they want to change things in a country.

 

[FoxEye]

It wasn't a test, it was a question, and it related to his mistaken belief that all the Muslims(or even most of them let's concede) will try to violently take over the world and create a caliphate to replace all the worlds governments and religions because an article once said they want to change things in a country.

How does the question, or the answering of it, prove that muslims don't want the whole world to become muslim?

Don't all muslims want this?

Anyway, how does the fact that he hasn't been murdered by a muslim prove that muslims in general disagree with spreading islam by violence? Maybe they agree with it but wouldn't commit acts of violence themselves?

We do know (from muslims themseleves responding to polls), that some have sympathy for violent jahid, and even ISIS. Even though they may not want or plan to carry out any violence themselves. But they may choose, for example, not to report an "extremist" imam in their local mosque...

 

[angel102]

How does the question, or the answering of it, prove that muslims don't want the whole world to become muslim?

Don't all muslims want this?

Anyway, how does the fact that he hasn't been murdered by a muslim prove that muslims in general disagree with spreading islam by violence? Maybe they agree with it but wouldn't commit acts of violence themselves?

We do know (from muslims themseleves responding to polls), that some have sympathy for violent jahid, and even ISIS. Even though they may not want or plan to carry out any violence themselves. But they may choose, for example, not to report an "extremist" imam in their local mosque...

which is exactly the same as all other faiths, yes even Buddhists, just look at Myanmar. Catholics in South America, Ireland or Italy, Protestants in the US, England and Germany. Saying that only Muslims have violent tendencies is just pure ********. The Bible was used as justification of Slavery in the Us, for Apartheid in South Africa, Opium wars in China, so lets pack it in with this utter nonsense that all the worlds ills are down to Muslims that want to kill us all and eat our babies.

 

[FoxEye]

?LOL-Que?

Who was that aimed at btw? Not sure it addressed anything I was talking about, that's for sure.

 

[peterwalkley]

The recent talk about Oyster cards had me go and check up whether lending it to someone else is allowed as I've given mine to my wife in the past (I rarely use it and wasn't travelling with her).

Official linky is here: https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/oyster/what-is-oyster#on-this-page-3

Relevant text:

Lending your Oyster card to others
If your Oyster card only has pay as you go credit on it, you can lend it to someone else, even if the card is registered in your name.

An Oyster card can't be used by anyone other than the registered user if it has one of the following on it:

• Travelcard or Bus & Tram Pass season ticket
• Jobcentre Plus Travel Discount
• Bus & Tram discount
• National Railcard discount
• Disabled Persons Railcard discount

 

[Chris Wilson]

People coming to the UK do obey our rules and laws. Social niceties are neither.

Really? Total and utter tosh, again:

Foreign inmates outnumber UK nationals in a British prison for the first time, it was revealed today.

The rise of prisoners without UK passports at Morton Hall women's prison in Lincolnshire, has been put down to an increase in the numbers of those jailed for smuggling drugs.

The prison in Swinderby has 350 inmates - 65% are foreign nationals.

The Prison Service is facing record levels of overcrowding, with one in seven of the record 74,000 jail population now a foreign citizen.

Wandsworth jail in south London has 400 Jamaican inmates - the largest concentration in the country.

The disclosure was made in a report last month in which prison inspectors commented that it was the first time that they had visited a prison with more foreign nationals than UK born prisoners.

The prison is now planning a pilot project to give mothers the chance to see and communicate with their children in Jamaica over the Internet.

Jails in England and Wales house people from more

than 160 countries, following an increase in foreigners convicted since the late 1990s.

The percentage of foreign nationals - anyone without a UK passport - has risen from 8% in 1999 to 13.1% in 2003 according to latest figures.

A prison service spokeswoman confirmed that Morton Hall was the only prison where foreign nationals outnumber UK-born prisoners.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-191372/Foreign-inmates-outnumber-Britons.html

 

[angel102]

Really? Total and utter tosh, again:

Foreign inmates outnumber UK nationals in a British prison for the first time, it was revealed today.

The rise of prisoners without UK passports at Morton Hall women's prison in Lincolnshire, has been put down to an increase in the numbers of those jailed for smuggling drugs.

The prison in Swinderby has 350 inmates - 65% are foreign nationals.

The Prison Service is facing record levels of overcrowding, with one in seven of the record 74,000 jail population now a foreign citizen.

Wandsworth jail in south London has 400 Jamaican inmates - the largest concentration in the country.

The disclosure was made in a report last month in which prison inspectors commented that it was the first time that they had visited a prison with more foreign nationals than UK born prisoners.

The prison is now planning a pilot project to give mothers the chance to see and communicate with their children in Jamaica over the Internet.

Jails in England and Wales house people from more

than 160 countries, following an increase in foreigners convicted since the late 1990s.

The percentage of foreign nationals - anyone without a UK passport - has risen from 8% in 1999 to 13.1% in 2003 according to latest figures.

A prison service spokeswoman confirmed that Morton Hall was the only prison where foreign nationals outnumber UK-born prisoners.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-191372/Foreign-inmates-outnumber-Britons.html

You realise the only thing you just showed is that the Home Office and Prison service are choosing to send foreign nationals to the same place, probably for specific reasons like translators or other logistical reasons.

 

[Nasher]

Not all of them, my German daughter-in-law, (granted not an immigrant to U.K.), left her Oyster Card back in Germany, she used my wife’s Oyster, (how petty a crime is that?), to travel from Rotherhithe to Kew and back.
No doubt a technical non transferable felony, but TFL didn’t lose out, the charge appeared on my wife’s Oyster account.

That's very un-German

 

[garnett]

You realise the only thing you just showed is that the Home Office and Prison service are choosing to send foreign nationals to the same place, probably for specific reasons like translators or other logistical reasons.

That, and that Chris continues to get his thoughts and opinions from the Daily Mail...

 

[enkoda]

Ah so it's the person's own interpretation based on his mental state. That's a good start because I've read the Quran and not even for a second did I think someone is commanding to kill innocent people.

Aren't homosexuals, apostates, unbelievers and those who insult Allah/Muhammad classed as sinners in the eyes of Islam, therefore those groups are not considered "innocent"?

 

[Chris Wilson]

You realise the only thing you just showed is that the Home Office and Prison service are choosing to send foreign nationals to the same place, probably for specific reasons like translators or other logistical reasons.

Not at all, I can't be bothered looking for more current figures, they'll be far worse since 2003. The streets of London are awash with knife and gun victims mostly ethnics and their progeny.

Jails in England and Wales house people from more

than 160 countries, following an increase in foreigners convicted since the late 1990s.

The percentage of foreign nationals - anyone without a UK passport - has risen from 8% in 1999 to 13.1% in 2003 according to latest figures.

A prison service spokeswoman confirmed that Morton Hall was the only prison where foreign nationals outnumber UK-born prisoners.

 

[angel102]

Not at all, I can't be bothered looking for more current figures, they'll be far worse since 2003. The streets of London are awash with knife and gun victims mostly ethnics and their progeny.

Jails in England and Wales house people from more

than 160 countries, following an increase in foreigners convicted since the late 1990s.

The percentage of foreign nationals - anyone without a UK passport - has risen from 8% in 1999 to 13.1% in 2003 according to latest figures.

A prison service spokeswoman confirmed that Morton Hall was the only prison where foreign nationals outnumber UK-born prisoners.

"ethnics and their progeny" wow. Why not call them ******* and spicks and be done with it.

 

[FoxEye]

"ethnics and their progeny" wow. Why not call them ******* and spicks and be done with it.

Isn't ethnics just shorthand for "ethnic minorities"? I'm not reading it as a derogatory term like the ones you mention.

 

[angel102]

Isn't ethnics just shorthand for "ethnic minorities"? I'm not reading it as a derogatory term like the ones you mention.

Sure, just like the 'shorthand' for Pakistani's is not racist at all with no negative connotations either.

 

[koolpc]

Anyway, back on topic. The burka and Boris.

 

[Tefal]

"ethnics and their progeny" wow. Why not call them ******* and spicks and be done with it.

Has Chris ever said anything bad about the Spanish?

 

[Tefal]

Sure, just like the 'shorthand' for Pakistani's is not racist at all with no negative connotations either.

Shall we all just call them BAMEs then?

 

[Tefal]

Anyway, back on topic. The burka and Boris.

So judt to be clear everyone is annoyed that Boris said the burkha should not be banned?

 

[Chris Wilson]

90% political, let's try and slate him any way we can and keep Boris out of number 10 in case he delivers a full fat Brexit.

10% ethical oooh, boorish Boris, letterboxes and bank robbers, tut tut.