Well it's not really. Letting us assume that we want the bloke to die (which many do) then either you want to do it ethically, cheaply, quietly or really nastily as a deterrent. Now it certainly wasn't ethical, it wasn't cheap, is certain wasn't quiet and the could have used rats.
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Well it's not really. Letting us assume that we want the bloke to die (which many do) then either you want to do it ethically, cheaply, quietly or really nastily as a deterrent. Now it certainly wasn't ethical, it wasn't cheap, is certain wasn't quiet and the could have used rats.
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I suppose the only time you could advocate execution would be in some kind of hostage situation, but would it be execution. Taking a bad life to save a good life so to speak, would it still be execution or can it be only called execution as a result of something a person had been convicted of.
I would not, it would have screwed up my life. It would have been probably an exhilarating relief at the time but on reflection I would not have wanted to look back and see myself doing something so barbaric.
I think what some are missing here is the point that a death sentence is a deterrent to reasonable people. These kinds of people are not reasonable, they either have mental issues that cause extreme acts for no apparent reason or they are just so predisposed to violence no punishment could ever dissuade them. Even a normally passive person could be pushed by reason of circumstance to kill, this again is a situation where any deterrent would not work because in a crime of passion or the heat of the moment punishment will only be remembered after the act. When feelings are running so high all logic and reason is forgotten.
And murder more innocent people?
Perhaps an even simpler, safer and cheaper solution is just to forget executing people and let criminals rot in jail. Far cheaper, less likely to make terminal mistakes, security is cheaper and appeals process is easier and cheaper.
because they cannot be seen as sending the patient out on a high.
honest thats the genuine reason they give.
Caporegime
i bet future inmates due for lethal injection now have brown pants so even more cost to the state
Yep, that reason has been given and then they give midazolam which hardly has an unpleasant effect especially when given in the dose range they give it in.
Soldato
Pay per view with proceeds going to victims family?
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Why don't they just go back to firing squads?
It can't get any more painless than a few shots to the brainstem.
It can't get any more painless than a few shots to the brainstem.
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Not sure if anyone's mentioned it but the BBC had a very thought provoking series called 'Life and Death row' where many of these conflicting opinions were looked at, it may still be on Iplayer.
The first episode had a very thought provoking case where the victim wanted to forgive the perpetrator, but in the end he still only could think of himself it seemed. I felt so sorry for her as you could see she really wanted to let it go, the execution was an end but not to her burden
Certainly made me think and it very much chimes with your opinions Freefaller, which I agree with. To me it's not black and white, but it seems we're in the minority.
I wonder this, it could even be computer controlled (not like on Robocop "PUT DOWN THE WEAPON!"). It's a pretty mechanical way to die so should give the satisfaction factor and is cheap, quick and fun to watch!
How is it more humane for a criminal to have a massive penis?
What about carbon monoxide? Ticks all the boxes and leaves them with a nice rosy glow as well.
It wouldn't be painless like an inert gas would be.
Soldato
whats wrong with a good old firing squad.............
Soldato
I felt slightly sympathetic until I read the line:
Nope. Couldn't care less.
Nope. Couldn't care less.
Soldato
My heart bleeds! really convicted killer dies horribly people get upset really! get real the first one shot and watched as the person was buried alive!!!
Soldato
I care more about what's for dinner tonight than how the demise of this murderer went down.
As the other chap said, how we treat our criminals reflects on us, not them.
If society (aka the state) determines that a person should be killed, it should be quick, painless and totally dispassionate.
Botched and painful executions are impossible to defend, unless you are something of a psycho yourself
