Brazilian Grand Prix 2013, São Paulo - Race 19/19

this_is_gav said:
He did it last year, and probably would have been up for a podium at least if he hadn't had to play the percentages game and with the team unable to hear him.

He was third until Hulkenberg Maldonado'd Hamilton while battling for the lead. Button won't be anywhere near a podium.

Speaking of Mr Hulkenberg, he tends to go rather well around here. I reckon he'll not be all that far away from the 3rd podium position.
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Ah, right. Explains it... I guess it's a Vettel, Webber, Hammy 1, 2, 3 then.
 
I don't think Hamilton will be the third driver on the podium. To be honest, barring any incidents, I can't see it being anyone other than Grosjean at the moment.
 
I don't post in these threads very often but I always have a read through before and after the race to see what everyone is saying.

Cheers Duke and here's to the last race of the season everyone. 2008, last race, last lap, last corner will always be my greatest memory of this track.
 
Thanks for all your threads Duke!

I'm looking forward to this one.

Can't see it being anything other than a Vettel win but should be a good race never the less.

All I want for Christmas is for Hamilton to finish within six points of Webber. :)
 
Irish_Tom said:
Thanks for all your threads Duke!

I'm looking forward to this one.

Can't see it being anything other than a Vettel win but should be a good race never the less.

All I want for Christmas is for Hamilton to finish within six points of Webber. :)
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I got a feeling Lewis will do well this race and maybe a top 4 :)
 
Start hoping the next season is different and red bull dont win everything.

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Nevermind we were doing that after the mid way point.
 
Massa leaving Ferrari
Webber leaving F1
Last race for V8's
And biggest of all, Duke leaving OcUK Motorsport

It really does feel like the end of an era :(
 
Skeeter said:
Massa leaving Ferrari
Webber leaving F1
Last race for V8's
And biggest of all, Duke leaving OcUK Motorsport

It really does feel like the end of an era :(
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+1

(although I still maintain that Webber is above average at best. Not a description that Duke will suffer from).
 
The_Abyss said:
+1

(although I still maintain that Webber is above average at best. Not a description that Duke will suffer from).
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In 2010, when Webber was winning races, I think he peaked and was "ok", but not great. Probably ranked just about in the top 10 on the grid.

After Vettel won his 1st title, though, Vettel moved ahead and left Webber behind. Also, Vettel's high intelligence allowed him to learn how to drive the car which used exhaust gases to give added downforce. Apparently, this method of driving is counter-intuitive, which is why Webber struggled, when RBR were using this technology. Vettel continues to improve over the years, which has brought us to today, where in the best car, is able to win 100% of races (not easy).

Personally, I'd love to see Vettel do what MSc did, ie. move to a team which hasnt won the title in over a decade and make them great. Until Vettel does this, I cant see how he can be ranked ahead of MSc.
 
sunama said:
Personally, I'd love to see Vettel do what MSc did, ie. move to a team which hasnt won the title in over a decade and make them great. Until Vettel does this, I cant see how he can be ranked ahead of MSc.
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The thing is, it wasn't Schumacher who changed Ferrari, it was the team that came after him.

The 1994 and 1995 car was a good, simple car already, and would have had more success had they not stuck with that awesome-sounding V12 for so long (which, granted, was what brought them to the front at Hockenheim and Monza, but restricted them everywhere else). For Schumacher's arrival in 1996 they had moved to the V10 and didn't really move that far forward in terms of pace (the performance tilt shifted with what you'd expect with the change of engine). Byrne and Brawn arrived and started putting the building blocks in shape to get them back up to the front, and in 1997 they were challenging among a rather underwhelming grid. The got better and better each year until they finally won it in 2000.

Byrne and Brawn presumably wouldn't have moved if Schumacher hadn't, but in the end, as good as he was, it wasn't Schumacher who made Ferrari consistent front-runners.
 
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