Poll: Brazilian Grand Prix 2021, São Paulo - Race 19

[the wopster]

So when do they start testing next year's cars

Winter testing in Spain if memory serves

 

[SoliD]

Post Abu Dhabi adjusted 2021 cars for 18“ wheels isn't it?

 

[Irish_Tom]

Both very fair penalties IMO. No politics being played for the spectacle.

Shame though as was looking forward to seeing the Max, Lewis battle with Bottas and Perez in the mix too in terms of strategy.

Yep, you can’t really argue with the Hamilton penalty. No matter the reason, it failed the test. If anything, you could argue Max’s punishment was harsh.

The sad thing is, the decision robs us of an interesting battle at the front, both for the sprint and the race tomorrow.

 

[Scam]

What a crock.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

I wonder whether Hamilton will just park it and they replace a load of parts.

 

[Psycho Ned]

Rules is the rules sadly and 'it broke in quali' doesn't get you out of it or they'd all be at it!

As for today, hard to say what to do really it's 24 laps, he'd need to make it to the top 10 to make it worth the effort, on the other hand if he tries and crashes what has he lost he's last anyway. Might as well just Leroy Jenkins it all the way.

 

[SoliD]

I wonder whether Hamilton will just park it and they replace a load of parts.

Doubt it, if he could get up to 5th or 6th today puts him in a good place to finish on podium tomorrow. But needs bottas to get ahead at the start. Merc was much faster on the straights so should enable ham to do some overtaking.

 

[IPBA]

Lewis should in my view definitely box and retire at end of the formation lap. Why put stress on the new engine as he won't make up enough places to mitigate the ICE penalty.

 

[XeNoN89]

Yep Merc screwed this season up

 

[DanielSon]

Lewis should in my view definitely box and retire at end of lap 1. Why put stress on the new engine as he won't make up enough places to mitigate the ICE penalty.

he should easily be able to get past more then 5 cars today, id hope he got well into the top 10, then tomorrow it will be a long run on hard tyres to get from 15 to top 5 id say. still a major hit to his chances this year.
not want an intentional crash, but would be fun for us if max had a tap and broken front wing or something like that.

 

[alchal]

Mercedes attempting to replicate Hamiltons misfortunes when racing for McLaren.

 

[iamtheoneneo]

It’s against the rules to touch a competitor’s car when it’s in its final race setup, so yes any driver should be given an penalty, the Hamilton hate on here is unreal.

Haha give over. Hamilton fanboys run amok in ocuk.

 

[IPBA]

he should easily be able to get past more then 5 cars today, id hope he got well into the top 10, then tomorrow it will be a long run on hard tyres to get from 15 to top 5 id say. still a major hit to his chances this year.
not want an intentional crash, but would be fun for us if max had a tap and broken front wing or something like that.

Let us say he finishes 8th today then add 5 place grid drop which means 13th tomorrow. That is accident territory in the main race. Better starting dead last or from the pits.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

Yep, you can’t really argue with the Hamilton penalty. No matter the reason, it failed the test. If anything, you could argue Max’s punishment was harsh.

The sad thing is, the decision robs us of an interesting battle at the front, both for the sprint and the race tomorrow.

The Sporting Regulations breach penalty for Max is both fair and a shot across other driver’s bows as they’re perceived to have got “too handsy” with competitor’s car this season.

Technical Regulations by Merc is a something of an own goal as their telemetry must have captured the difference between expected and recorded downforce during FP1 if some failure of a DRS component was allowing the wing to open beyond its normal limit.

 

[the wopster]

The Sporting Regulations breach penalty for Max is both fair and a shot across other driver’s bows as they’re perceived to have got “too handsy” with competitor’s car this season.

Technical Regulations by Merc is a something of an own goal as their telemetry must have captured the difference between expected and recorded downforce during FP1 if some failure of a DRS component was allowing the wing to open beyond its normal limit.

TBH, it’s a good job it was picked up at the end of qualifying, you can imagine the uproar if his car wasn’t chosen for testing at the end of qualifying and instead chosen for testing at the end of the race after he had possibly won the race, at least he has a chance now to make up places.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Doubt it, if he could get up to 5th or 6th today puts him in a good place to finish on podium tomorrow. But needs bottas to get ahead at the start. Merc was much faster on the straights so should enable ham to do some overtaking.

Bottas will likely end up several places back at the start. So frustrating they didn’t stick Russell in that car sooner.

 

[booyaka]

Max touching the rear wing was just a classic move to "highlight" that Red Bull had an issue with the rear wing on that Merc...

Worked out great for them - £50k fine and Hamilton to the back, perfect for them

 

[the wopster]

Bottas will likely end up several places back at the start. So frustrating they didn’t stick Russell in that car sooner.

Aye, they had the perfect opportunity to do so after bottas opened the door for max when they both started from the back of the grid a few races ago

 

[Slam62]

Yep Merc screwed this season up

Tbf Lewis messed up in Azerbaijan, should have cleared 25 points there, but anyway.

 

[UTmaniac]

I'm not pro-Lewis or anti-Max, but IMO a fine is meaningless for breaching the post-quali rule as regards touching other cars, especially when it's your main rival. It should have been a grid penalty, perhaps even for the main race, rather than simply the sprint race starting in ~30mins.