Poll: Brazilian Grand Prix 2022, Interlagos - Race 21
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Is it just me or was the Lewis/Max incident basically the same as the first chicane at Monza last year?
Max round the outside of the first turn then gets himself partially up the inside of the second turn and refuses to yield...
Of course that one was deemed his fault too.
Max round the outside of the first turn then gets himself partially up the inside of the second turn and refuses to yield...
Of course that one was deemed his fault too.
It probably doesn’t help that the rules aren’t clear/aren’t clearly enforced. Multiple times this year there have been drivers arguing the “I was ahead” rule.
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The point was that Hamilton also accused Nico of unfavourable race strategy in 2014 Monaco...you could call it cheating but nothing was ever proven.
And at that point it's just an accusation by a rival driver disgruntled they got screwed out of pole (the same with Max/Checo)
The RB drama might be similar or about to get real spicy. I guess we will soon find out.
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There's a level of subjectivity involved, especially so when contact is made.
It's all very well launching up the inside but you need to be able to sensibly make the turn too. When people end up colliding and both go barrelling off track, it's very difficult to judge if the car trying to pass would have made the corner or not.
The steward's notes about entry speed today would suggest they thought it was unlikely the corner could have been properly taken at that speed.
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[Erik van Haren] It is correct what @TomCoronel just said at ViaPlay. Perez deliberately crashed in qualifying in Monaco and later admitted it to Helmut Marko and Christian Horner. Max Verstappen has not forgotten that.
This is the issue it would seem. Need to 100% confirm it of course but if true what is worse. Deliberately crashing or what Max did today? Sounds like they've discussed it over summer and Max has stuck to his position.
This is the issue it would seem. Need to 100% confirm it of course but if true what is worse. Deliberately crashing or what Max did today? Sounds like they've discussed it over summer and Max has stuck to his position.
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I think it's a well know "fact" that Nico's "wobbly hands" moment at Monaco was one of the most blatent incidents of on track cheating in F1 for a long time, perhaps since crashgate.
Nico got the pole lap on the first run and locked up on the second run, Lewis accused Nico of doing it purpose to stop his second run.
I think Lewis also accused Nico of copying his telemetry on the same weekend
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Team harmony - Max/Checo swap nets the team the same amount of points but creates an atmosphere where the drivers are more likely to help each other (and thus benefit the team as a whole) in future.
Look at what disharmony does - multi21, current Alpine situation, you name it - always hurts the team overall.
Speculation isn’t fact. Not saying he didn’t but it creates a baseless argument for other arguments. People love to grasp at anything they can to weakly support a point.
Haven't seen the race. It seems that Verstappen see's Hamilton, as Senna saw Prost, beat at all costs. Verstappen knows Hamilton will always be a chink in his armour.
Not watched one race this year - but delighted to hear Russell won!
I seriously hope the motorsport gods reap more karma (they always do in the end) as they have been a bit slow thus far.
Not watched one race this year - but delighted to hear Russell won!
I seriously hope the motorsport gods reap more karma (they always do in the end) as they have been a bit slow thus far.
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Well it definitely sets a precedent. People complain about Max doing it but now clearly he was in the right.
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It never ceases to amaze me that in every incident where a driver goes into a closing gap that they were completly unaware that braking was an option that might stop them from crashing into someone.
In the right about what?
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Max's Sky interview.
Sky: Why did you not give the place back to Checo and disobey the team order?
Max: Umm, well that's why I first went to speak to the team before I came here and we put everything on the table why and I gave my reasons, umm, I'm not going to say why, I think they understood and I've already explained it to them before you know, so it's not new to them. But I think it's more important as a team now that we finally reset together, you know all together and we really put everything on the table and importantly we move forward we go to Abu Dhabi of course we want to win the race, umm but also if there's a chance to help Checo I will. But that's why it was important that we have this meeting now.
Sky: Checo said to me that he was disappointed after everything he's done for you that you didn't consider him in that moment.
Max: I understand, I understand why he's disappointed but they have to also understand why I did it and I gave them the reason's why.
Sky: Is it anything to do with Moncao this year?
Max: You can, you can decide that. I'm not going to say.
Sky: Why did you not give the place back to Checo and disobey the team order?
Max: Umm, well that's why I first went to speak to the team before I came here and we put everything on the table why and I gave my reasons, umm, I'm not going to say why, I think they understood and I've already explained it to them before you know, so it's not new to them. But I think it's more important as a team now that we finally reset together, you know all together and we really put everything on the table and importantly we move forward we go to Abu Dhabi of course we want to win the race, umm but also if there's a chance to help Checo I will. But that's why it was important that we have this meeting now.
Sky: Checo said to me that he was disappointed after everything he's done for you that you didn't consider him in that moment.
Max: I understand, I understand why he's disappointed but they have to also understand why I did it and I gave them the reason's why.
Sky: Is it anything to do with Moncao this year?
Max: You can, you can decide that. I'm not going to say.
If Perez crashed on purpose and Horner knew about it that's getting dsq from race level bad and shows a culture of cheating is prevalent at RB
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What the heck is it to do with Red Bull, if Perez did do it then that's on him.
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