Breaking Bad Season 4

Yes, a lot of why they are where they are is down to Walt's dedication to Jesse and Jesse doesn't even realise it.
 
So I just finished season 4 and wow, I enjoyed the seasons before this one. Especially season two when Walt goes mental. But this was just on a different level, I'm close to saying possibly the best TV I've ever seen but maybe that's because its so fresh in my head.

The acting, the camera work, the obvious twists that you know about but still WOW you! I mean this is TV at its best.

Walt, is possibly the best acting I have seen from a TV show I struggle to believe that it is the same character from Malcom in the Middle!

If anyone hasn't watched this, do so now you won't be disappointed!
 
I take it we don't use spoiler warnings at all in this thread?

I really shouldn't come here until I've finished the series :s
 
Davepen said:
I take it we don't use spoiler warnings at all in this thread?

I really shouldn't come here until I've finished the series :s
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There should be a spoiler warning in the Title. But meh I've finished it now and don't care.

I still love how Walt is the man, the scene where he tells his wife he is the boss he is the one everyone needs to be scared of is so damn powerful. I am majorly excited for season 5! :)
 
Dirk said:
I don't know if anyone here is an A.V. Club reader? If not, here is Season 4 as explained by Vince Gilligan himself. (In four parts).

http://www.avclub.com/articles/vince-gilligan-walks-us-through-season-four-of-bre,63013/

http://www.avclub.com/articles/vince-gilligan-walks-us-through-breaking-bads-4th,63113/

http://www.avclub.com/articles/vince-gilligan-walks-us-through-breaking-bads-4th,63196/

http://www.avclub.com/articles/vince-gilligan-walks-us-through-breaking-bads-four,63288/
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Great read, cheers. :)

They make it all sound so easy! The fact that it isn't planned that far ahead, and yet still ties together so brilliantly, just speaks volumes about what fantastic writers they are.

AVC: Are there things from earlier seasons that you’re still waiting or hoping to pay off?
VG: Yeah, definitely. The most coy way I can answer that is that there are several things that I think are still outstanding. I guess one of them that goes without saying is the dramatic engine that started this whole series, which is Walt’s cancer diagnosis. That’s certainly something we have not forgotten about, and that is something we will touch base on in one form or another as we draw to a conclusion in our last 16 episodes. But there are other things as well. Definitely we spend a lot of time looking to the past, and looking to previous episodes in an effort to tell a satisfying story by not leaving many, or any, hopefully, loose ends hanging out.
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Ha. forgot about that scene from season 2.

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Yeah, that was mighty impressive.

Apart from the Walt caring about Jesse thing. I think he does but that's the beauty of it - complex characters!
 
I still don't think he made the exchange. It was too quick and they would have played it out more. Saul's reaction to Huel's pat down didn't seem like a "well down, good job" wink and a nod reaction.

I also don't think Saul is that type of guy and if he was, he would have charged Walt more money than he probably has to do something like that.

My guess is, Walt followed Brock, bought him a drink and did it that way. Maybe... hmm but Brock would then explain that to everyone. So, Walt must have had access to Brock's house (maybe from Sauls assistant?) and added the poison to something he knew Brock would consume...

I think BB do this to make people go crazy in speculation. Like when everyone thought Mike was aiming at Jesse.

At this point, Jesse and Walt's relationship is uncondtional. The amount of near death moments they have gone through would have brought them closer like a son and father.
 
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Walt definitely cares about Jesse. If he didn't he would not have been in the situation he found himself in. His dedication to Jesse has led us to where we are, and may I say thank **** he does care for him or we wouldn't have had such an awesome program.
 
ElliorR said:
Walt definitely cares about Jesse. If he didn't he would not have been in the situation he found himself in. His dedication to Jesse has led us to where we are, and may I say thank **** he does care for him or we wouldn't have had such an awesome program.
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but think of how messed up Jesse's life is since he met Walt.

I mean, he started off the show banging milf's. :p
 
I'm going to spend the weekend watching seasons 1 & 2. It'll be interesting to see how much that happened back then impacts on what has transpired in season 4.
 
Robert1986 said:
I still don't think he made the exchange. It was too quick and they would have played it out more. Saul's reaction to Huel's pat down didn't seem like a "well down, good job" wink and a nod reaction.

I also don't think Saul is that type of guy and if he was, he would have charged Walt more money than he probably has to do something like that.

My guess is, Walt followed Brock, bought him a drink and did it that way. Maybe... hmm but Brock would then explain that to everyone. So, Walt must have had access to Brock's house (maybe from Sauls assistant?) and added the poison to something he knew Brock would consume...

I think BB do this to make people go crazy in speculation. Like when everyone thought Mike was aiming at Jesse.

At this point, Jesse and Walt's relationship is uncondtional. The amount of near death moments they have gone through would have brought them closer like a son and father.
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You go and make a fairly decent point and ruin it with "would have" instead of "would've/would have" etc :p

I'm unsure about Huel thing as well but at the end of the day, as a spectator we're already complete in our knowledge that Jesse has street smarts and not much else besides. We're aware that he's made really bad decisions and that sometimes he comes across as pretty stupid. So as an audience member, we're absolutely and completely lead to believe that Jesse's theory is really quite far fetched when the truth is - he's probably correct.

Without bringing a lot of theory into this, we're positioned to view this show almost entirely from Walter's point of view. Everything that happens when Walter is off screen either directly or indirectly plays a part in our understanding of his relationship between him and every other character. With that in mind, not only do we dismiss Jesse's theory as being a bit bonkers, the writers are entirely aware that we'll do this, and use this knowledge to their advantage. (Broadly speaking, the apparatus theory of cinema can be applied here)

It's actually really quite a clever trick. Jesse's explanation is correct, we're left in no doubt of this with the very final scene of the series, the ricin thing is called into question immediately but turns out to be true. Walter does not only manipulate Jesse emotionally, but the writers manipulate the spectator in EXACTLY the same way by playing with our assumptions and identification with the characters involved.
 
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