Breaking Bad Season 5 - Part I

Even if it were from Gretchen, I don't think it would make a huge difference:

Hank is not going to confront Walt with the book directly - he'll just use his newfound hunch to investigate Walt independently. Which will/may lead him to Walt's true activities through one of the many loose ends.

If he's out of the game now though then Hank won't be able to find much on Walt...

But he probably will. Somehow.
 
That's the interesting point....

Walt said he is done now, so obviously based on what we saw in the first episode, things seem to go very wrong, what Hank would find out is anyones guess, but tailing him wont really do much.
 
If he's out of the game now though then Hank won't be able to find much on Walt...

But he probably will. Somehow.

There are still plenty of "loose ends" out there.

Todd. Lydia. The Aryan 'prison gang'. The biker gang that's doing the distribution. Saul Goodman. And of course - Jesse.

Hank has already shown us that he can be incredibly resourceful, and there is no way that he's going to let this lie until he's uncovered the truth. My guess is that Hank will get to Walt through Lydia - her paranoia and sense of self-preservation could push her to witness protection, and she's already on Hank's radar through Madrigal.

Frankly, I think that Hank will get "something" on Walt fairly quickly - within two or three episodes next 'season'. The dilemma will be whether Hank can bring himself to tear the family apart (Marie will be devastated, not to mention "Flynn"; especially if Skylar is implicated also), and whether he can do so without implicating himself (Walt / Skylar paid for his medical expenses etc).

It's going to be fun finding out!
 
It's Spoiler whack-a-mole round here, dammit
Here's one from left field: every theory about the ending supposes that Hank's going to do the lawful thing. What if he finds out about the White's heowge stack o' bills and offers to not bring the law down in exchange for 50% of the money?

After all, they've made a bit of a show of his increasing disillusionment with DEA upper career rungs - wistfully reminiscing about his tree-marking job, for instance - so maybe he could be swayed by a Walt-bargain along the lines of "Here's half the money. I promise that my law-breaking days are behind me; we can both retire and give our families the lives we've always dreamed of. Whaddya say, Hank?"

He is, after all, the only one at the DEA with a sniff of the blue meth trail. Hank goes quiet, the trail dies. Hank brings Walt to justice, however, and it's "How can you expect to be respected within the DEA when your brother-in-law was Heisenberg? GTFO etc".

Not sure how it would tie in with the flashforward at the start of the season, admittedly, but I think with Gilligan it'd be naive to assume that it has to be Walt v Hank & the DEA...
 
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There are a tonne of ways Hank could follow through on his hunch. He's watched Walt buy a car wash, pay his medical bills and buy 2 new cars, all under the guise of some out of character gambling wins. A small amount of digging into that car wash and I'm willing to bet Skyler's complicitness in the whole thing will be discovered. She will crack under pressure from Hank very fast and roll over on Walt. That's still my bet for the unforgivable thing Walt does - offing Skyler to save his own skin.
 
A small amount of digging into that car wash and I'm willing to bet Skyler's complicitness in the whole thing will be discovered. She will crack under pressure from Hank very fast and roll over on Walt.

I think we've seen that Skyler can be just as duplicitous as Walt when required, and that we've not seen the worst of her yet when cornered or protecting her kids. I can't see the above happening, not without a fight.
 
Just finished season 4.

I'm too scared to read this thread for accidently spoilers, is there anywhere online I can watch this, legally of course.
 
No it wasn't , and please use spoiler tags

Oh, yeah, it was lily of the valley but I remember Jesse saying it could've be ricin. Thats the connection I am making. It means nothing.

and you don't need to use spoilers for something that aired over a year ago.. its all game after that.
 
He didn't forget about it, don't you remember him going over to Walt's house with a gun and accusing him of poisoning him, and then it turned out it wasn't even ricin.
 
I think we've seen that Skyler can be just as duplicitous as Walt when required, and that we've not seen the worst of her yet when cornered or protecting her kids. I can't see the above happening, not without a fight.
It would be her chance to get the kids out though. They're completely innocent, so any kind of plea bargain that would see her free and Walt behind bars would be perfect for her, I reckon.

I'm not sure Walt would kill her though, and given some people's opinions on the show, I very much doubt it would turn them against him. Hell, some people still seem to dislike Skyler so much that they'd probably cheer it.
 
Walt ending up in jail goes against the grain of the whole show imo, he doesn't lose, he ALWAYS finds a way. This is why I'm convinced he'll die of cancer to end the series. It's the only force he can't out whit.

We've seen him at the hospital having a scan looking disappointed(like he always does) where he looks over to the same hand drier he punched in season 1(?)
 
Walt ending up in jail goes against the grain of the whole show imo, he doesn't lose, he ALWAYS finds a way. This is why I'm convinced he'll die of cancer to end the series. It's the only force he can't out whit.

We've seen him at the hospital having a scan looking disappointed(like he always does) where he looks over to the same hand drier he punched in season 1(?)

I'm not so sure. Those scenes can be also be read as Walt taking stock of what he's gone through to get to where he is, his motivation, his real driving force for the whole sequence of events that's lead up to the killing and the loss of his family. He decides that he's out after that, and it seems like seeing all that money was just the thing he needed to push him towards that conclusion.

I fully expect to be wring here. If we get the scan results at the start of the next season then all bets are off.
 
Walt ending up in jail goes against the grain of the whole show imo, he doesn't lose, he ALWAYS finds a way. This is why I'm convinced he'll die of cancer to end the series. It's the only force he can't out whit.

The flash forward at the beginning of season 5 goes against that doesn't it? We know he's still alove in at least a year

Also, do we need to use spoiler tags in this thread now? The series has aired and the thread is clearly marked as season 5. What are people doing in here if they don't want to know about season 5? At this rate we have to spoiler tag every post. Makes reading the thing pretty cumbersome too.
 
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