Brendan Rodgers sacked - If you're happy and you know it KLOPP your hands !!!

Do you think Bayern will sack Guardiola? I dont think so, they'd be idiot to sack him. Quality player and coach, obviously extremely knowledgeable. Yea, he had Messi, fine. he made use of him...they dominated for years under him. I know he prefers possession based football but so what. Barca were awesome to watch under him...
 
Good for you mate, I thought our team was miles more entertaining so that's that :)

Don't be silly ;)

I actually think Suarez is the reason he got sacked. Because he was so good it made everyone around him better as well. Suddenly the Liverpool board and fans start to think they're on the up and expectations are raised.

Fast forward a few months and Suarez is gone, there is no one they can get to replace him. Suddenly it becomes apparent that Suarez was a major reason for their form but the expectation is still there for Liverpool to challenge.

Massive expectation and poor player recruitment is not a good mix.
 
Do you think Bayern will sack Guardiola? I dont think so, they'd be idiot to sack him. Quality player and coach, obviously extremely knowledgeable. Yea, he had Messi, fine. he made use of him...they dominated for years under him. I know he prefers possession based football but so what. Barca were awesome to watch under him...
He's in the last year of his contract and neither he nor Bayern appear to want to open discussions about an extension.
 
He's in the last year of his contract and neither he nor Bayern appear to want to open discussions about an extension.

Hmmm..."official contract extensions". Doesnt mean there hasnt been a conversation. If Guardiola is in the zone, cant imagine him wanting to sort that stuff out now. Bayerns form speaks for itself 5-1 at the weekend against Dotrmund. Arsenal have Bayern at home in the CL next, we need a win, it's gonna be extremely hard. If Bayern win the league and the CL, they are hardly going to sack him.
 
No different to a players agent saying he's keen on a move to get a better deal for the player.

Klopp may well want to manage us but at the same time he may be using us to find out whether the Bayern job will be available to try and get them to make a move for him.

Doesn't feel that way.

I might be wrong but regardless of whether he joins us or not, I just can't see him going to Bayern. After the way they poached his best players from Dortmund it would surely be the ultimate betrayal to Dortmund supporters if he ended up there.
 
Just woke from an afternoon nap, a sweaty shaking wreck, i dreamt Jose had been appointed as manager :o
 
Valid point raise today about Rodgers/Suarez. A lot of people say Rodgers benefitted from a great player and it was nothing to do with him, by that measure you cannot then blame him when Suarez left and the team got worse. Meaning either praise him then detract or do neither. To many people have credited his success to Suarez and everything that went wrong fully loaded on him. Need some consistency with the approach.

I want them to get Klopp, Phil Stamp and Hypia as a management team.

If you have Hypia and you know it Klopp your hands *clap clap*
If you have Hypia and you know it Stanp your feet *stamp feet*
If you have Hypia and you know it and you really want to show it, if you have Hypia and you know it Stamp and Klopp *stamp clap*
 
Valid point raise today about Rodgers/Suarez. A lot of people say Rodgers benefitted from a great player and it was nothing to do with him, by that measure you cannot then blame him when Suarez left and the team got worse. Meaning either praise him then detract or do neither. To many people have credited his success to Suarez and everything that went wrong fully loaded on him. Need some consistency with the approach.

A simple response to those people is that Suarez was a Liverpool player for 2 and a half seasons prior to our title challenge.

Could we have made that challenge without Suarez? Almost certainly not but it was Rodgers that built a side that enabled Suarez to shine. It's also worth mentioning that in the 2nd half of that season, when we went on that winning streak that almost brought us the title (remember we were 4th, in a battle just to get top 4, around February time), Suarez was far less impressive than he was in the first half of the season.

Rodgers played a huge part in that title challenge. His downfall is that he wasn't able to build a new side without Suarez (and Sturridge).
 
Valid point raise today about Rodgers/Suarez. A lot of people say Rodgers benefitted from a great player and it was nothing to do with him, by that measure you cannot then blame him when Suarez left and the team got worse. Meaning either praise him then detract or do neither. To many people have credited his success to Suarez and everything that went wrong fully loaded on him. Need some consistency with the approach.

I want them to get Klopp, Phil Stamp and Hypia as a management team.

What, so it's either 2nd with Suarez or stay 7th which is basically where he took over the club and 7th is okay when they have a budget, wages and transfer spending far in excess of 5th and 6th place in the league?

He was brought in because Benitez hit 7th and was let go, Hodg/Dal got 6th then Dal got 8th, Rodgers has 7th/2nd/6th/terribad.

So he didn't really improve despite decent spending the first year and with Suarez in a much improved year from the year before. He got 2nd when Suarez/Sturridge had a mental year, and he went back to 6th but worse over the year and terrible this year. He was brought in to improve the club not see over 300mil in spending and see them exactly where they were when he took over and going backwards for over a year.

The logic that if you can't give him credit for 2nd you can't blame up for 6th and being crap this year is nonsense, it's not one or the other. Suarez helped him massively but that doesn't mean Liverpool shouldn't have improved significantly. They are the 5th biggest team in the league with a massive gap between 5th and 6th in budget/wage spending and underperforming.

Dalglish got into two cup finals and won one of them, Rodgers didn't look capable of even that.
 
No surprise at all. I liked Rodgers at the start of his Liverpool career, and prior to that. Unfortunately, for a multitude of reasons, Rodgers could not get Liverpool 'back on track'. He basically unravelled and looked out of ideas.

Liverpool are still in a relatively good position; six points from the top (iirc) with a lot of games left to be played. International break; gives the incoming manager a small amount of time (presuming Liverpool appoint a manager in good time).

I think Rodgers was given a 'last chance', they gave him time and money however he could not get Liverpool 'back on track' with their form which saw them challenge for the title, Liverpool were excellent then, and they are a long way from excellent at the minute.

He cracked up towards the end, clueless.

I think this is the right move for Liverpool, without question, some of the names being thrown around are impressive. Liverpool are still capable of being excellent again.
 
Suarez helped him massively but that doesn't mean Liverpool shouldn't have improved significantly. They are the 5th biggest team in the league with a massive gap between 5th and 6th in budget/wage spending and underperforming.

What do you mean? Suarez was a such a massive player, Gerrard the following season was check out mentally..no wonder they finished 6th. It's not like they finished 14th or something. They were there or there abouts where they should be for a team with that money. If Rogders had won the title, Suarez would have stayed and Rogders would still be manager now. They certainly played some mint stuff during that good period. The potential was there.

At 6ft 4, I cant wait to see some managers standing off against him on the touchline and yelling :D

:D Him and Wenger...two giraffes.

Edit. Who's the shortest, most aggressive manager in the PL? hahaha. Reckon him and Pardew could have some right scraps..
 
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6th and 7th you mean?

I meant they have a budget far ahead of the teams finishing ahead of them in his first/third year at Liverpool. Finishing behind Spurs who have a way smaller budget and in his first year finishing behind Everton and Spurs, the gap to Everton is even bigger.

They may have the 5th highest wage spend but for most of the past decade they've been on the tails of the top four rather than just ahead of 6th. Arsenal were spending 130mil on wages while Pool were spending 120mil and Spurs were spending 80mil. Before City were in the picture there was a reason they were considered part of the top 4, because they were in that high budget group, we consider it a top 4 and realistically Liverpool can't compete directly financially, but it's far closer to a top 5 now(revenue/ability to spend wise) than a top four and 'the rest'.
 
I meant they have a budget far ahead of the teams finishing ahead of them in his first/third year at Liverpool. Finishing behind Spurs who have a way smaller budget and in his first year finishing behind Everton and Spurs, the gap to Everton is even bigger.

They may have the 5th highest wage spend but for most of the past decade they've been on the tails of the top four rather than just ahead of 6th. Arsenal were spending 130mil on wages while Pool were spending 120mil and Spurs were spending 80mil. Before City were in the picture there was a reason they were considered part of the top 4, because they were in that high budget group, we consider it a top 4 and realistically Liverpool can't compete directly financially, but it's far closer to a top 5 now(revenue/ability to spend wise) than a top four and 'the rest'.

Ok, just wasn't sure what you meant. I wasn't sure if you were suggesting our transfers/wages were ahead of Arsenals.

As things stand now our wage bill is at least ~£50m less than Arsenal, Chelsea, City and Utd's. But as you say, we're a long way ahead of the 6th heighest spenders too.
 
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