Is that a chore?
Depends if the required visa is per country or EU-wide, and how long it would last. Probably not a chore for an annual holiday, but could be a major chore for anyone travelling regularly to different countries for business.
Is that a chore?
I am only going to make one comment in this thread about this, as I have had enough to the back teeth of it.
The special ********* generation don't get it, they think they can change things by shouting down and screaming we are wrong.
Welcome to the real world and the is no safe space or naughty step anymore, its the real world deal with it.
I am no activist but if the MPs reject this vote, I will be on the streets as we are suppose to be a democratic society.
Not please mum can I have my Ipad back society and just give in, just for peace and calm.
Real world, real issues...
Applying weeks in advance of any trip.
Sounds like that puts a damper on any short term plans so yeah, I'd call that a chore.
I think the issue of a referendum is that it is a snap shot of opinion at a point in time. I get the impression you could run this in/out vote 10 times and it would be split 5-5 depending on what had been in the news the night before. For me the question is, should 52% (or 34% depending on how you frame it) have the right to fundamentally change the lives of the rest?
Real world, real issues deal with it.
Some say we’ll need visas to go to Europe?
I am only going to make one comment in this thread about this, as I have had enough to the back teeth of it.
The special ********* generation don't get it, they think they can change things by shouting down and screaming we are wrong.
Welcome to the real world and the is no safe space or naughty step anymore, its the real world deal with it.
I am no activist but if the MPs reject this vote, I will be on the streets as we are suppose to be a democratic society.
Not please mum can I have my Ipad back society and just give in, just for peace and calm.
Real world, real issues deal with it.
http://www.filmsforaction.org/artic...the-uk-just-kicked-neoliberalism-in-the-nuts/
I voted Remain, but the more I read about the EU, the more I dislike it
What about the global and European companies that have chosen to have their European HQ's in the UK? Large business, large employers and large amounts of both corporate and employee taxes being paid in the UK?
It's all going to go.
Does anyone actually have any idea the timescales we are talking about when it comes to certain things? Lets say we are ejected and treated like a non-EU/EEA country - how long could it take to organise:
Im sure theres more to think about but it be good to get a ball park figure on those types of negotiations.
- Ability to move into/around the EU short term - both holidays and for business
- Ability to emigrate into the EU
- Import/export trade agreements with the EU for goods/services
- Any short/long-term immigration to non-EU that have been lost due to exiting the EU
- Trade agreements with the non-EU for goods/services that have been lost due to exiting the EU
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Depends if freedom of movement is part of any exit deal. If it is, then no visa needed. But since blocking freedom of movement was a central pillar of the Brexit campaign, who knows what will be agreed. Depends who is doing the negotiating I guess and how much backpeddling they are willing to do.
I would want a GE before activating article 50 - seems mad to allow the PCP to decide which person will act on our behalf to argue our rights as per our divorce from the EU.The liklihood is a visa waiver/free travel system, like the US and Canada will be put in place IMO.
Out of interest what are the opinions of forcing a General election before article 50 is invoked. It's not out of this world to suggest the people should have a say in who negotiates quite possibly the largest political decision/negotiation in 60 years.
If that did happen then my gut feeling is we would have a Conservative party led by Boris who would be campaigning for enacting article 50, and then other parties campaigning for staying in. Could be an interesting situation if that happened.
Whether parliament elects to dissolve itself is another question though, but there could be enough MPs to do so as long as there wasn't a major whip on the subject.
I think the way people respond to you isn't because of what you voted but it's the reasons you give for doing so.
You know, I had a friend who worked in a mental home and he told me the most difficult part of his job was trying to get the residents to understand that they're not behaving rationally.
You don't need freedom of movement to have visa-free travel. Plenty of non-EU countries have visa-free travel to the Schengen area.
Id want someone thats been duly elected...
What's not rational is giving 50-60m people a vote and then expecting them to get an A level in Politics and Economics to make that decision.
We paid Remain and Leave £m's to help us make that decision instead and both failed to staggering degrees.
But given that Remain had more money and the support of the PM and the leader of the opposition their failure is total.
Remain voters getting sound bites out of the Guardian are getting so tedious.
I am no activist but if the MPs reject this vote, I will be on the streets as we are suppose to be a democratic society.