Brexit thread - what happens next

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Gilly said:
I think he's just being slippery, and not going into specifics.

Would be interesting if someone was to ask him about a GE.
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They already have

And he said it's up to the new government to decide on that.

Interestingly, he's just said that there doesn't have to be a vote in parliament on article 50, and the PM can decide with the cabinet
 
Gilly said:
As it should be.

There's a 'lot of complex decision making as the best way to manage this' though, and he's made it very clear it's down to the next government too. One of those outcomes might end up being to be out of the EU and might not!

Yvette Cooper has just made a very good point. Cross-house cross-party group to define the future. Not down to DC any more though.

Sir Gerald Howarth has just asking DC to reconsider his decision. The country has made a 'very clear decision' and needs fresh leadership committed to that path and he won't change his mind.

What happens if they can't find someone committed to it?

Alex Salmond has ruined the right honourable member for Uxbridge - Boris.
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I think the next leader has already been picked.
But I'm glad no one can reverse the vote. Even parliament can't
 
Mauller said:
Even so, If we went the EFTA-EEA route or EFTA-Bilateral-agreement route we will have more control over our own country than we already do. There are a lot of EU policies and legislation that EFTA members are not restricted by.

We can essentially make our own economy more attractive in ways that we currently cannot. Due to EU legislation and laws that restrict us.
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This is true, but for those that believed out mean better / tighter migration control how would they swallow free movement as part of the deal. Taking back control wasn't just abut finances, it was sold on a ticket about controlling borders too, so how does that one pan out, or was it another lie from Boris et al. ?
 
Glaucus said:
didn't he say that on Friday in his resignation speech.
new tory leader elected > GE > article 50
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He said it was upto whatever leader replaced him to "do whatever" which basically pointed at whether to call for an early general election or not.
 
Steedie said:
They already have

And he said it's up to the new government to decide on that.
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I must have missed that whilst typing here working.

Clearly although he's saying that the will of the people needs to be recognised, he's not saying article 50 will be invoked.
 
George Hincapie said:
I've told him he's wrong every time he posts it and he still wheels out the same thing. I am actually bored of trying to correct him.
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Well I'm entirely in agreement with him, sorry.

This sort of decision should have been in the hands of people who know what they are doing, and if it *absolutely* had to come down to a referendum, the line should not have been at 50% for such a major change.

Just because we are a democratic country, doesn't mean that everything has to be done by referendum. As demonstrated by how few there have been in our history.
 
"Last Friday morning was amazing! I woke up in my Union Jack jim-jams to the sound of a squadron of Spitfires racing overhead and leaving a trail of hot buttered crumpets behind them

I ran to the corner shop past all the british children who were laughing and squealing with excitement as they made a beautiful statue of the queen out of happy wriggling bulldog puppies - with two corgis for her eyebrows!

Bunting fluttered everywhere and the man from the betting shop stepped out into the street - "Guess what! England just won the World Cup & The Ashes & The Grand National and here's the best bit - Boris put a bet on it for everyone! you're all MILLIONAIRES!!!"

The red arrows flew overhead dropping fish and chips as i walked into the corner shop, got my morning paper and went to the counter. "how much please?" I said to the asian lad there. "1 pence, everything in the whole shop now costs just 1p!" he laughed, "Leave it on the counter, i'm off back to pakistan - we all are!"

And he's right! outside in the streets jolly old Nigel Farage was leading a huge crowd of happy foreigners - turks, poles, romanians, syrians - there was even a few English people with heavy suntans mixed up in there! nigel was singing Rule Britannia carrying a pint of ale and a cigarette, which he had lit up INSIDE A PUB!

Just then Boris flew overhead in a concorde made of Bank of England gold - "don't worry!" he laughed "I've cut out all the bits the French made!" and with that he crashed into the ground at 1200 miles an hour, along with the economy, the country and all the dozy nostalgic foreigner-fearing fools who fell for this."
 
Narj said:
Out of curiousity, could a full "Brexit" not be done in the following long-winded way..

1) Move to Norway Model
2) Take time to negotiate trade deals with rest of world
3) Leave Norway model and negotiate new trade deal with the EU (if it still exists)

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No. What is the point of a Norway model with all the costs we are currently facing to gat to a similar position.

Then leave the Norway model and the rest of the world will say their treaty is invalid as the circumstances have been changed. Back to renegotiating 60+ countries treaties.
 
Gilly said:
No, that's literally not what was said. You and I can infer things from it, but it wasn't specific enough to say what you think it said.
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Fair enough. I'll re listen. I am genuinely just trying to get a solid grip on what's unfolding.
 
StriderX said:
Gonna enjoy the **** show if its ignored.

This country will be so welcoming and nice to live in guys!
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There has to be a decision made as to which is the better choice. That will be down to the expertise of those who govern us.

Phonesis said:
Fair enough. I'll re listen. I am genuinely just trying to get a solid grip on what's unfolding.
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Me too. I wanted it to say the opposite of what you said, but it wasn't either.
 
Narj said:
Out of curiousity, could a full "Brexit" not be done in the following long-winded way..

1) Move to Norway Model
2) Take time to negotiate trade deals with rest of world
3) Leave Norway model and negotiate new trade deal with the EU (if it still exists)

?
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no because step 3 still requires you to deal with the EU and the EU will not give you access, partial, full or otherwise to any part of the single market unless you first agree to accept free movement of people.
 
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