It's probably going to get worse as a lot of people are going to go nuts when they realize free movement isn't going to stop. Cameron has mentioned an impact fund in response to helping areas of high immigration.
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It's probably going to get worse as a lot of people are going to go nuts when they realize free movement isn't going to stop. Cameron has mentioned an impact fund in response to helping areas of high immigration.
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Don't bother. Many people here seem to believe nothing has changed and the amount of xenophobic hate crime witnessed in the past two days is exactly the same amount we've had for the past few years (which apparently makes it ok)
It's almost as if I don't consider you alone to be the definitive view on whether my views hold merit or not. In the same way that I'd never expect my views to be the final judgement of yours.
Soldato
project fear, the police are simply peddling fear, they should shut up and deal with it.....................
I don't think that's true, they'll allow access to the EU market with tariffs without having free movement of people.
So we'll get access, we'll just pay through the nose for it.
Man of Honour
Can we make it a rule in this thread that you must append "in my opinion" when making posts like the above?
It's getting pretty damn annoying people making statements like the above as if they know for sure and it's fact.Going on your previous posts in this thread Raymond, I think you're far from being able to make statements like that based on your understanding
Soldato
Parliament is live now. Cameron and MPs said article 50 with be used.
Soldato
I know, i also wanted more control over our borders. Although our own sovereignty and self governance was bigger.
Things are going to be complicated, but i think in the nearer term other countries will have a rise in parties that want to give Referenda. we just have to wait and see and put up with the current situation of free movement. but if a country such as France decided to break away, there could be a big change in the EU's attitude to the unrestricted freedom of movement.
I think from the start that the freedom of movement should have allowed countries to place limits on the numbers of people entering. The freedom of movement itself enshrining a persons rights to move, live, work in another country without visa etc. but the country itself can manage its borders still.
Caporegime
Like the one Brown introduced and he got rid of?
Can we make it a rule in this thread that you must append "in my opinion" when making posts like the above?
Based on your previous posts in this thread Raymond, I think you're far from being able to make statements like that based on your understanding
Just add 'in my opinion' to everything in this thread and you won't go far wrong
No he didn't, and no they didn't.
Soldato
yes, free access to the single market is what I was stating, just didn;t write it appropriately.
Caporegime
The government is obligated to carry out the voice of the people, despite what the media report about voters with regrets or the back tracking from the leave campaign.
If a government choose to ignore the vote then they lose credibility to the world in British as a democracy. If they hold a second referendum it will send out the same message.
We are up the crap creek either way, article 50 will come eventually and then watch the regrets really roll in.
If a government choose to ignore the vote then they lose credibility to the world in British as a democracy. If they hold a second referendum it will send out the same message.
We are up the crap creek either way, article 50 will come eventually and then watch the regrets really roll in.
It just depends. If the deal is equivalent to £30b tariffs or freedom of movement we may well end up with another referendum anyway as to whether people want:
- To remain a member of the EU
- To leave the EU and pay tariffs on trade with the EU
- To leave the EU and retain freedom of movement
Those are certainly to be decided.
Caporegime
Can we make it a rule in this thread that you must append "in my opinion" when making posts like the above?
Going on your previous posts in this thread Raymond, I think you're far from being able to make statements like that based on your understanding
Instead of insulting me personally why don't you reply how it is all going to be A okay?
Go on, what is this economic Masterplan that you have.
Show me your UNDERSTANDING.
Caporegime
I agree with Fox too in principal. Why leave such a monumental decision with consequences that will last for decades to the public - especially if there's no oversight on how each camp sells it to them. You don't ask the public how to operate on you, you trust in a skilled expert. You don't run the country by referendum because the country is largely made up of idiots.
"As all eyes were on the British referendum tonight members of the European Parliament quietly announced a new travel document allowing migrants from outside the EU to travel within the 28 member states."
"Mike Hookem MEP said "How convenient that they chose this evening, with polls now closed, to discuss a proposal to make it even easier for migrants to get into the EU."
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/682887/EU-announces-migrant-passpost-on-EU-referendum-day
Phew..
When a refugee is granted asylum (i.e. the right to remain) by any state, they are given temporary documents which allow them to work and travel in that country. They aren't going to be given a full passport or national id card in most states, but alternative documents which are different in every country.
To make it easier when travelling between eu states and outside the eu they standardised this type of document so customs officials / law enforcement can recognise and treat it properly when encountered.
Seems like a non-story, a technical standardisation for a little used and recognised (currently) document.
Now I don't know if an asylum seeker registered in Germany has the right to travel to the UK, I do not believe they would have the right to work. But this story has no bearing on that (real) question what so ever.
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