Brexit thread - what happens next

do_ron_ron · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:07

wordy said:
You sure, or is that just speculation?

The government would have to get a plan like TTIP past the electorate & not say "sorry not our fault" when the NHS was sold off.

No. It would just be another trade deal that has passed during a Parliament, why would they consult the electorate this time?

stewski · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:08

Mauller said:
The EU is going down anyway due to the Euro and the problems it is causing the weaker economies in the block.

Great news for their neighbouring countries and trade partners?

Domo · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:08

I just can't believe this. We've just spent the last 8 years with austerity cuts to put our finances right. We've all suffered, some much more than others. And just when the going gets good we shoot ourselves in the head with both barrels.

Honesty - we must be the laughing stock of the world.

I agree with those who have stated MPs are paying lip service. Particularly Osbourne earlier today with his nice and cosy everything's fluffy speech.

Can't someone grow a spine and press the eject button? We've lost our AAA rating, Merkel and co have flipped the idea of informal talks on it's arse which puts us at huge risk.

I sincerely wish I could see things the way those who voted leave do - referring to those who haven't changed their minds. Yet.

PapaLazaru · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:08

Minstadave said:
Just a small dip is OK to SAVE THE WORLD!

Weeve gott are boarders bak tho!

Minstadave · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:09

Mauller said:
The bolded part is a major problem with a lot of remain people from more affluent areas. They don't and have never had to experience the problems with the recession head on, nor have they had to deal with high levels of immigration in their areas.

The wealthy have never experienced recession but the less affluent have, so the less affluent have forced another recession because they.....enjoy it? Are stupid? Were manipulated?

What's your point?

toshj · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:09

Mauller said:
The bolded part is a major problem with a lot of remain people from more affluent areas. They don't and have never had to experience the problems with the recession head on, nor have they had to deal with high levels of immigration in their areas.

quite a generalisation. I live in possibly the longest standing immigration hotstop in London, if not the UK. I've still not met anyone locally who has voted to Leave.

Akagi · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:09

Domo said:
Honesty - we must be the laughI sincerely wish I could see things the way those who voted leave do - referring to those who haven't changed their minds. Yet.

I don't. I quite like having my sanity and ability to think rationally.

Bonjour · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:10

Buckster said:
fantastic just lost one of our AAA credit ratings

well done Leavers

Sovereignty though, fam.

datalol-jack · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:10

stewski said:
The chances of a TTIP style relationship with the US are likely higher out than in.

The US will write their conditions down on headed paper, five or ten years after some cap in hand begging, if not longer, from whoever is in charge in the UK; whoever is in charge will sign on the dotted line. A few years later, our trade Wiki will be updated with a larger trade deficit and a total skew towards the US, which, like China, will enjoy a near total access to our market, whilst some blocks, tariffs and quotas still remain on our goods and services going the other way and US companies enjoy their sacred right to challenge our government with impunity. Few people will even mention farming and UK steel after that. Grand times ahead. The open sea!

Mauller · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:11

Minstadave said:
The wealthy have never experienced recession but the less affluent have, so the less affluent have forced another recession because they.....enjoy it? Are stupid? Were manipulated?

What's your point?

They have a far greater buffer due to their wealth so are less affected by it.

do_ron_ron · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:13

PapaLazaru said:
Weeve gott are boarders bak tho!

Yeah but we sacked a load of the people who were meant to do the border checks and we haven't got any Naval vessels to even patrol the Channel as they are all committed elsewhere.

Mauller · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:14

toshj said:
quite a generalisation. I live in possibly the longest standing immigration hotstop in London, if not the UK. I've still not met anyone locally who has voted to Leave.

yes, London, the most affluent place in the country due to continued London centric government.

datalol-jack · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:14

do_ron_ron said:
Yeah but we sacked a load of the people who were meant to do the border checks and we haven't got any Naval vessels to even patrol the Channel as they are all committed elsewhere.

Send deuse out with our fishing flotilla, they'll sort 'em all out free of charge!

Rilot · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:14

Mauller said:
The bolded part is a major problem with a lot of remain people from more affluent areas. They don't and have never had to experience the problems with the recession head on, nor have they had to deal with high levels of immigration in their areas.

Lost my job in early 2009. Didn't get another until late 2010. Lost my savings, car, and most of my possessions that were worth anything. I felt the recession plenty hard enough and yet I still voted to remain. I do not want to have to go through those years again and yet it seems that that is the course we have set.
Immigration has never been an issue to me. I don't see them as immigrants, just people. I've lived around the Reading area for the last 20 years which has one of the largest Polish communities in the UK.

Domo · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:17

Acme said:
I don't. I quite like having my sanity and ability to think rationally.

Same - but I want that self assured warm and fluffy feeling, even though entirely deluded.

Skunkworks · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:17

I hope this thread gets archived. Some of these posts will be even more hilariously melodramatic in 5 years when everything’s fine.

Buckster · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:18

I'll be voting next GE for whichever party punishes those demographics most that have voted for this

Mynight · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:18

Skunkworks said:
I hope this thread gets archived. Some of these posts will be even more hilariously melodramatic in 5 years when everything’s fine.

Or an understatement let's see.

Naff8000 · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:18

Mauller said:
The bolded part is a major problem with a lot of remain people from more affluent areas. They don't and have never had to experience the problems with the recession head on, nor have they had to deal with high levels of immigration in their areas.

London is immigrant central. So no.

arctine · 27 Jun 2016 at 19:19

Buckster said:
I'll be voting next GE for whichever party punishes those demographics most that have voted for this

Well that is an example of exactly the wrong attitude.