Brexit thread - what happens next
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nothing can be more important general discussions wise than Brexit ?
so may as well shut General Discussion if no Brexit discussion allowed
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I voted remain but like many i had issues with it. Its been interesting i have read many friends posts who come across as absorbed champagne socialists. I understand with kids being born mortgages etc financial instability is bad but 16 years ago we all (my friends) would have empathised with the anti establishment ideals rather than the patronising disdain they've all displayed in recent days. Selfishly attacking others for being selfish whilst really they are only mad because of how it impacts them in the short term.
It seems lost to them all that financial instability is no threat to the people who have been sidelined for generations.
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Coming to cinemas this summer:
"EU 2 - European Harder"
Directed by: Not David Cameron.
Produced by: Old people who won't live to see the aftermath
Featuring: Farage and Johnson, double teaming, double trouble!
Running time: Until the country falls to pieces.
Metacritic score (predicted): - 16,141,241
"EU 2 - European Harder"
Directed by: Not David Cameron.
Produced by: Old people who won't live to see the aftermath
Featuring: Farage and Johnson, double teaming, double trouble!
Running time: Until the country falls to pieces.
Metacritic score (predicted): - 16,141,241
Surly that would take years?
Lets see, what's on the table already...
"German treasury "invited the Uk to be an associated partner - http://112.international/politics/germany-to-offer-uk-associate-membership-in-eu-6362.html
the UK's current net contribution of about £8.5bn (€11bn; $12.5bn) annually will stay at home. It could be spent partly on the National Health Service, as some in the Brexit camp have suggested, or used to scrap VAT on fuel.
Now THAT would make sense...
Get the country moving.
This I don't understand (well I do, I think he's a coward)
"Mr Cameron said: "It would not be right for me to be the captain that steers our country to its next destination."
Why not you coward, you gave us the vote!
Another video from outside the UK pre brexit happening, again making it clear that the EU have yet further plans we are (were) just not going to stomach..
All these things kept quiet on purpose!! (don't worry he does start speaking English once the interview starts)
http://www.elsevier.nl/buitenland/article/2016/06/nederland-volg-ons-en-verlaat-de-eu-312661/
and you wanted to join this???
"German treasury "invited the Uk to be an associated partner - http://112.international/politics/germany-to-offer-uk-associate-membership-in-eu-6362.html
the UK's current net contribution of about £8.5bn (€11bn; $12.5bn) annually will stay at home. It could be spent partly on the National Health Service, as some in the Brexit camp have suggested, or used to scrap VAT on fuel.
Now THAT would make sense...
Get the country moving.
This I don't understand (well I do, I think he's a coward)
"Mr Cameron said: "It would not be right for me to be the captain that steers our country to its next destination."
Why not you coward, you gave us the vote!
Another video from outside the UK pre brexit happening, again making it clear that the EU have yet further plans we are (were) just not going to stomach..
All these things kept quiet on purpose!! (don't worry he does start speaking English once the interview starts)
http://www.elsevier.nl/buitenland/article/2016/06/nederland-volg-ons-en-verlaat-de-eu-312661/
and you wanted to join this???
Soldato
Im from the remain camp, im nervous about the next 5 years or so, but the people have spoken hey ho!
I hope the people who have run the leave campaign, do follow through with their pledges and promises, because if they dont, 50% of the population will be even more dejected and will swing even further to the right, that could result in civil unrest, the working classes rightly or wrongly really do feel screwed by the elites.
I do hope we hold the politicians that have led us up this path, to account.
I hope the people who have run the leave campaign, do follow through with their pledges and promises, because if they dont, 50% of the population will be even more dejected and will swing even further to the right, that could result in civil unrest, the working classes rightly or wrongly really do feel screwed by the elites.
I do hope we hold the politicians that have led us up this path, to account.
Soldato
It would indeed, though I suspect it would be completed before any UK deal with the EU
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Surely that petition, if it has any impact, would only affect a possible Scottish referendum? Which would be quite amusing.
Also if they voted to leave wouldn't there be similar financial crashes and uproar? This referendum will probably put anyone off voting in these things ever again.
I'm starting to think no one will be willing to take responsibility for submitting the article 50. It wouldn't surprise me if everything changes next week in some way that leads to a different path.
However it is good as a Leave voter to have really shaked things up.
Also if they voted to leave wouldn't there be similar financial crashes and uproar? This referendum will probably put anyone off voting in these things ever again.
I'm starting to think no one will be willing to take responsibility for submitting the article 50. It wouldn't surprise me if everything changes next week in some way that leads to a different path.
However it is good as a Leave voter to have really shaked things up.
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So you dont disagree with the figures just my interpretation of them. Maybe you could have said that originally without the disrespectful comment.
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[FnG]magnolia;29691232 said:
More like "Brexit Deal - Couldn't Bunker from the Juncker!"
Direct by: Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
Produced by: Facebook Trolls
Featuring: Overworked civil servants, Goldman Sachs and XXXX faceless lawyers, industry experts, statisticians, economists and more experts.
Running time: Till the end.
Rotten Farage Score: 0/10 "They said I could run things, I was wrong to believe them." - Nige
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Probably, though Sturgeon is currently trying to talk with the EU I'd imagine in order to try and secure a position due to the UK's position rather than reapply as a new application. How that will play out is anyone's guess, though it does raise questions.
Will Scotland have to apply as a new applicant?
Will they have to accept the Euro? Schengen?
Will they be have to worry about a current member's veto if applying as a new applicant? (This could get messy if divorced from the UK and vetoed by Spain etc).
This is more about the next chapter. This is the aftermath thread and discussions on what is next. The last one was all about the referendum itself and continuing the arguments was only going to end up in more suspensions and fallouts.
Happy to let this one continue if we can remain respectful
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This is more about the next chapter. This is he aftermath thread and discussions on what is next. The last one was all about the referendum itself and continuing the arguments was only going to end up in more suspensions and fallouts.
Happy to let this one continue if we can remain respectful
Fingers crossed
Totally incorrect! I was looking to see how much apathy there was for it from the assumedly younger generation that this board is populated by..
and yes I know there is a wide age range here as well but I think it is dominated by the younger end of the spectrum.
This is more about the next chapter. This is he aftermath thread and discussions on what is next. The last one was all about the referendum itself and continuing the arguments was only going to end up in more suspensions and fallouts.
Happy to let this one continue if we can remain respectful
Thank you
Personally, I'm gutted we're leaving the EU, but fully understand the reasons that many want out. I'd also fully support a 2nd referendum with some clauses stipulating particular vote margins have to be met to activate Article 50. Not only this but how can you decided to leave the EU when almost half the entire country wants to stay, while a percentage of the Leave camp have already admitted regret for their vote, stating it was either based on lies or a protest vote. However I can't see any of the above happening.
All these calls for a 2nd referendum will make for political suicide - any MP or PM pushing for this is basically saying they don't believe in democracy, or don't believe in the version we currently have - a very precarious position for a democratically elected politician. Whoever takes the reins from Cameron, very likely a Leave supporter, is going to avoid this like the plague, and Cameron certainly isn't going to push for it given he's already said, to the effect of, 'why should I do any work towards enacting Article 50?'
Nevertheless, I think the next 2 years are going to be incredibly interesting, if not slightly daunting. I just hope that a strong British attitude to put the best foot forward prevails, and we won't let this decision tear the country apart.
All these calls for a 2nd referendum will make for political suicide - any MP or PM pushing for this is basically saying they don't believe in democracy, or don't believe in the version we currently have - a very precarious position for a democratically elected politician. Whoever takes the reins from Cameron, very likely a Leave supporter, is going to avoid this like the plague, and Cameron certainly isn't going to push for it given he's already said, to the effect of, 'why should I do any work towards enacting Article 50?'
Nevertheless, I think the next 2 years are going to be incredibly interesting, if not slightly daunting. I just hope that a strong British attitude to put the best foot forward prevails, and we won't let this decision tear the country apart.
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