British Grand Prix 2015, Silverstone - Race 9/19

I don't think anything can change my mind that Williams messed up in the first part of the race.

Bottas was faster than massa, they were all faster than massa. If no one could get past anyone else why not let bottas go?

Remember one key thing, no one can pass in the twisty fast corners up to the straights but Bottas had DRS down those straights so Merc were trying to catch a Williams with DRS and the faster car with the better traction into those straights. The other way around bottas would have pulled out of DRS and Massa with less good traction out of those corners and without DRS would have been likely to be passed by Hamilton.

Also team mates not fighting wheel to wheel at the end of those straights is one thing, Hamilton is both a better driver and had a car that is significantly faster and has better grip in corners. Hamilton would have ended up closer down the straights and had far more chance to go around the outside or cut back to the inside for another shot elsewhere.

Also letting a car that isn't much faster by you requires losing time to let the other car though, with Hamilton less than a second behind bottas and Massa having to be slower to let him by there was every chance Hamilton may be able to pass Massa straight away.
 
Getting rather lucky with entertaining races at Silverstone recently. I've enjoyed today's and the tyre-gate races from Becketts and both have been thoroughly entertaining. Today is probably the best race day I've ever been to. Even after Monaco..
 
Boring race overall

This has officially taken over as the new F1 band wagon all the kids want to be on to be cool.

Its funny how these cycle through and then vanish. Recent wagons have been about the noise, the Vettel hate train, the tyres being random, the Hamilton bash fest when he had his Stewards Office Gold Card, the Brawn love in, and the second coming of Jesus when Hamilton joined F1.

There's always something people latch on to.
 
Great race start to finish :)

Agreed :)

Got a little dull while Mercedes were stuck behind Williams, but that was very brief and didn't detract from the race as a whole. I am getting a little bored of the commentators constantly commenting about F1 being perceived as boring and how that race wasn't...we get it, we don't need to be told constantly :)

Brundle in general was full of rubbish today.
 
Did anyone find it amusing from Lazenby/Crofty and co how they kept on going on about how it's not boring? On and on…. It's really rattled them. Even Brundle having a go at it.

Sick and tired of people (Lauda this time) trotting out the tired only "see, nothing wrong with F1" after a good race.

One swallow doesn't make a summer. The fact remains that boring races are the norm, not the exception and the occasional good race doesn't make everything ok again.

It was still the same end result from the entire season so far. Two Mercedes and a Ferrari.
 
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Great race. Absolutely catastrophic by Williams though to be 1 and 2 in the first corner and then walk away without a podium. Bottas could have won the race if he was given the chance to pull a gap out. Massa isn't fast.
 
Did anyone find it amusing from Lazenby/Crofty and co how they kept on going on about how it's not boring? On and on…. It's really rattled them. Even Brundle having a go at it.

They have been all weekend. Amusing/irritating.

I was talking to Crofty about this. They get more pressure placed on them than you might expect, and not from their direct employer. They have to contribute towards the entertainment package that F1 delivers so when it delivers itself they want to reiterate the point and it's not just directed at the fans.
 
I'm not convinced that if the Williams swapped that Massa would have held the Mercs off. I think Williams should just be a bit annoyed they didn't get 3/4th today - Vettel did well to sneak in there.

Enjoyable race in the end. Best in a while imo!
This! As much as I had hoped for Williams to get a 1/2, it was never going to happen. At least one of the Mercs was always going to work its way past and knock them off the top spot. I was just gutted that they didn't get the 3rd! Flipping Vettle! GRRRR
 
They would have had 2nd/3rd if not for the rain, well they might have. Merc pitted early, it made Williams pit earlier than they wanted. Not convinced their tires wouldn't fall apart by the end, they don't have anything close to the tire life Mercedes do. No where do Williams match Mercedes except straight line speed. Mercedes were going to get in clear air at one time or another and when they did it was going to be no match, as every other time this situation happened last year.

In the rain they got what I expected really. Even if they pitted a lap earlier and lost less time to Vettel, the Williams sucks in the rain. Vettel didn't pull away from Massa but he was what 16 seconds behind Rosberg with zero chance of catching, had he been 5 seconds behind Bottas he would have been pushing harder. That williams is just awful in the wet with no downforce.

What I find hilarious with all this magical gap Bottas was supposed to pull out and how bad Williams did is, what driver would give up 1st place and track position to a team mate if they don't both have a very clear no.1/no.2 driver structure and/or are on the same strategy. I've literally never seen any team EVER ask someone in the lead on the same strategy without a Schumi/Rubens style relationship to give up the lead and frankly I think it's ******* absurd that anyone here thinks they should have told a driver IN THE LEAD to pull over. It's laughable that anyone is even suggesting it as a sensible thing for any team to tell any driver, again unless you've paid someone specifically to be a no.2 driver and always let the no.1 guy pass.

I can think of a small number of drivers in F1 history who would have let Bottas past in that situation.

Hamilton was praised(by most) for not letting Rosberg by in Hungary last year and that wasn't even for first place AND Rosberg was on a different strategy and had to stop again. Hamilton's argument which was right is that you lose a lot of time pulling over as is and he wasn't going to drop over a second back extra to let Rosberg catch up as well. Hamilton was at times barely a second behind Massa(Bottas sometimes within 0.2s and Hamilton 0.5 further back at a couple of points). Massa pulling out of a corner or down the straight could easily have sent Hamilton flying past him as well.

I think it's hilarious everyone is thinking it's totally fine that when Massa takes the genuine lead of a race for the first time this year he should just give it up to his team mate for a questionable advantage.
 
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Bah. I had to go out today and was intending to watch the race on iplayer this evening. Purposely kept the radio off all afternoon to avoid spoilers, then got to my venue, the TV was on, the race had just ended and Lewis was being interviewed. So now it's ruined, lol.

Great that Lewis won though.
 
What a superb day! Amazing race. Lewis absolutely owned it. Brilliant drive. Got some photos of the cars, autographs from Ted and Pinks! Some photos of Lewis holding the trophy too. Loved it. Farm Curve is a brilliant place to sit. The atmosphere was incredible. Lots of Lewis fans near me. And *(gasps all around :D)* i was cheering on Lewis and clapping for him as well. I think i have warmed to him!
 
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As much as we love to rib you for your love of Button, it really really sucked to see him taken out, and even more so by Alonso (although clearly by accident). :(.

The fact that the "this may well be Buttons last British GP" line was mentioned more than once by the TV crew makes it all the more painful :(
 
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