Poll: British Grand Prix 2021, Silverstone - Race 10/23

[Scam]

10/10. What a race and what a result. Gutted because I was offered the chance to go with a work friend but I literally moved house last week, was unsure with regards to Covid risks etc. and a bunch of other stuff going on. With the weather, the sprint (as daft as that idea is), result and everything. Wow what a weekend.

But yeah, in short Max has always been over aggressive and arrogant. Perfect example of Lewis saying "enough is enough" and stepping up to the plate. Max clearly assumed (in his arrogance) that Lewis would concede, you can tell by the way he turned in for a second time without checking. 100% a racing incident, like someone above said if this for P10 and P11 no one would be batting an eyelid. The cars were level, if anything Max should have conceded because Lewis was on the inside line.

PS: Horner is also a ridiculously entitled muppet. What a whingebag, crying emotionally about the seriousness of the accident without talking about any of the facts. Toto was straight there emailing over the data, lol

 

[koolpc]

Ham should have been penalised more harshly..

 

[Feek]

I used to like Christian Horner but he's gone downhill in my opinion all this season. I've now lost any respect I had for him.

 

[Steampunk]

I used to like Christian Horner but he's gone downhill in my opinion all this season. I've now lost any respect I had for him.

He's been a pretty desperate sounding old lady since RBR stopped winning world championships with Vettel. It's always someone else's fault, always clutching his imaginary pearls and making drama.

 

[SKILL]

I voted a 5, it was kinda dull really overall...

Seemed like a racing incident to me, both drivers could've avoided it but didn't. But the penalty wasn't surprising given how the stewards have been giving them out like candy recently (Norris at Austria for example...)

Both TP's whining is ridiculous, but Horner/Marko take it to ridiculous levels, as above since RBR stopped winning they're unbearable.

Max has been extremely aggressive since he started, and it obviously works for him, but this was inevitable. It's one thing Hamilton going out of his way to avoid the accident at the likes of Barcelona when he had the championship lead and a 2nd place was better than a DNF, but it's a different story when he's 33 points down and needs to beat Verstappen to stand any chance, why yield then?

 

[Malt_Vinegar]

different story when he's 33 points down and needs to beat Verstappen to stand any chance, why yield then?

Exactly. The game is very different when you are in the lead and have to protect it. You pick your battles carefully, and Hamilton knew he would risk a penalty, but the risks/reward ratio is much different for Hamilton now and he is not going to be so discretionary in his use of hard tactics when he know it will hurt Max more than him.

Lewis has told him before:

Surely he knows now..

 

[413x]

no replay on c4, not been able to watch

 

[MagicBoy]

I think Lewis was lucky not to be disqualified for that overtaking manoeuvre in the first lap. As far as I could see he went for it when he had no clear path to overtake and was certain to collide with Versteppen.

Disqualification was never an option. The options available to the stewards are 5 seconds, 10 seconds or a pit lane drive through.

The Hamilton hate is well and truly alive today. Some of the comments on Instagram have to be seen to be believed.

Red Bull acted without any class today. Horner trashed what reputation he had by ranting utter ******** into any media microphone he could find. Marko is a crazy old man. Max being over aggressive contributed to the big accident that Kimi predicted would happen after Belgium 2016.

 

[adam cool dude]

I used to like Christian Horner but he's gone downhill in my opinion all this season. I've now lost any respect I had for him.

He cheated on his wife who just had a new born baby with ginger spice. I think that says it all about the person.

 

[stockhausen]

Verstappen had it coming to him eventually - as someone once said "To finish first, first you have to finish."

Horner is obviously something of a rent-a-quote but based on his endless complaints about engine suppliers and on this occasion about Hamilton and Horner's questionable commitment to family life he isn't someone you would tend greatly to admire.

 

[AndyCr15]

Well, watch the official highlights and listen to the roar when Max goes off the track and into the barriers.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/c...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

It sounds more like an 'ooooooooooohhhh' to me?

In fact, they go pretty silent in this section, just the drone of the cars.

 

[deuse]

Max has a history of over aggressive moves and has been lucky not to have more of them end in collision. Perhaps he will learn from this.

Why?

Hamilton went to fast in to the corner and couldn't control his car and hit max.
The same thing happened at brazil\austria.

I hope that f1 bring in the same rule as Moto series.
If they find you at fault your at the back.

 

[Stumble Bum]

Crash into your championship rival

Repair car under red flag

Take a 10 second penalty

Have team orders handed to you

Beat a broken Ferrari

Yeah.... Great win...

 

[MrKnifey]

I voted a 10. Purely because of the Salty people in here.. Complain about no tight racing, gets tight racing with unfortunate 50/50 accident, complains.. LOVE IT!

 

[Journey]

Great racing, almost exciting at some points which is not common for a GP in F1 these days, and why Formula-E is much more interesting to watch, but you see one racing incident and everyone is up in arms about it, it is almost funny.

 

[the wopster]

Wow this place is drowning in salty tears at the minute, all the petty hate for Lewis is hilarious

 

[el_dazza]

Wow this place is drowning in salty tears at the minute, all the petty hate for Lewis is hilarious

Almost as bad as the fairweather fanboys that are never in any other F1 thread trying to bait the other side

 

[Malt_Vinegar]

I don't think most of the people who complain in here so vociferously are actually fans of the sport or even watch the full races/sessions. It's just some Sunday afternoon fun to come in and poke the people who actually enjoy the sport.
Accidents happen in racing, rules are applied and that's part of the sport. The person who wins (in any sport) is the one who manages to operate within the rules and outperform their rivals.
Lewis is a master at doing that. He plays the percentages, and does what it takes to win.
Max will learn how to walk that line, or he will never be as successful.

 

[silvagti]

Disqualification was never an option. The options available to the stewards are 5 seconds, 10 seconds or a pit lane drive through.

The Hamilton hate is well and truly alive today. Some of the comments on Instagram have to be seen to be believed.

I didn't realise they were so limited in options. Seems like there needs to be another more substantial penalty if after taking out your main rival in an overtaking manoeuvre where you were at fault you can still go on to win the race. Otherwise you're surely incentivising drivers to tactically clip the wheel of the car in front?

On a side note it's depressing that people immediately play the race card and try to strawman and slur those they disagree with as racist for suggesting Hamilton's driving was at fault.

I notice many in this thread are now trying to accuse anyone who questions Hamilton's overtaking manoeuvre as being racially motivated !

Please stick to discussing the racing and keep the race baiting politics in speakers corner!

 

[SKILL]

Exactly. The game is very different when you are in the lead and have to protect it. You pick your battles carefully, and Hamilton knew he would risk a penalty, but the risks/reward ratio is much different for Hamilton now and he is not going to be so discretionary in his use of hard tactics when he know it will hurt Max more than him.

Lewis has told him before:

Surely he knows now..

I'd forgotten about that but exactly that... It'll be interesting to see if Verstappen does learn, but I wouldn't count on it with the Red Bull environment