Bruce Lee vs....

Depth · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:18

Phnom_Penh said:
Mick B appears to hit him with his toes, probably better to use the shin bone as he does at 3:03.

Thats Jerome Lebanner, and he is one of the hardest hitting kick boxers ever.

Hunt has taken loads of those kicks, and never once been KO'd. According to you, he should have been many times. Again, why won't you answer the question? Why has he not been KO'd?

Depth · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:20

Phantom said:
bruce lee = specialised fast fighting technique which includes close combat and defence and does have the strength

thug bloke = swinging arms with power, going for the head for the majority of the time and rarely defends opting to take punches instead

bruce lee to win end of story.

oh and if this fight were to take place, chuck norris to referee.

Your delusional. Lee wasn't even a fighter, where is his record? Who did he actually fight to gain such a reputation?

If winning fights were that easy, how come no professional wins them in that fashion, especially against men more than 100lbs heavier than themselves. It's just blind hero worship.

Vonhelmet · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:20

Phantom said:
oh and if this fight were to take place, chuck norris to referee.

With Jack Bauer commentating?

Smithy · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:27

Fedors technique relies on throwing his apponent on the floor and throwing multiple punches in the hope that one of them hits his apponent.
Fact of the matter is, Lee would probably have ran round him 5 times and thrown 75 punches at Fedor's head before Fedor could even get a grapple on him. And by then its game over.

Plus Fedor's fighting style relies on his apponent being on the floor, when do you ever see Lee on the floor?

EasyG · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:27

Depth said:
Cro Cop is a much better, proven striker than Bruce Lee ever was, and he couldn't stick and move and keep it off the ground. He is also much stronger and heavier than Lee, but was still over powered.

As soon as Fedor gets his mits on him, its going to the ground.

yeah and look at what cro cop did when he was on the ground , he held fedor off with his legs and fairly easily as well from what the video shows, and he covered up and avoided fedors punches as well.

beh · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:33

Depth said:
True, but Lee never accomplished anything in the fight world, so how can people say he would beat the best MMA fighter that has ever lived? He never beat anyone of note, there is no evidence he was a good fighter, nothing.

You say true, but then repeat the same point. Did he intend to achieve anything in the "fight world" i.e. professional competition? Did he have the oppurtunity to? I don't know who would win but I think your perhaps being slightly hard on Lee. I think its reasonable to assume he would not have achieved the status he did without being a good fighter to some extent.

Depth · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:35

EasyG said:
yeah and look at what cro cop did when he was on the ground , he held fedor off with his legs and fairly easily as well from what the video shows, and he covered up and avoided fedors punches as well.

Cro Cop may well be stronger than Fedor (he is well known to be very strong) something that Bruce Lee obviously would not be.

Red and White · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:35

nuff said

hmmmm dont think anyone is beating Bruce Lee. The Guy would kill any boxer so easy.

especially heavyweights with restricted movment, using there own weight agaist them etc.

Depth · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:36

beh said:
You say true, but then repeat the same point. Did he intend to achieve anything in the "fight world" i.e. professional competition? Did he have the oppurtunity to? I don't know who would win but I think your perhaps being slightly hard on Lee. I think its reasonable to assume he would not have achieved the status he did without being a good fighter to some extent.

His status is mostly among white westerners who think anyone chinese / japanese looking is good at fighting, and who think fights actually look like they do in enter the dragon.

Fedor is proven to be the best, Bruce Lee doesn't even have a record. Vale Tudo was around and big in Brazil when Lee was around, completly no holds barred.

If he was so good, he could have easily proved himself so much better than everyone else then in Brazil, but never did. I wonder why....

Phantom · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:42

Depth said:
Your delusional. Lee wasn't even a fighter, where is his record? Who did he actually fight to gain such a reputation?

you think he was just an actor? you dont always need the media around you and numbers (of fights) on a piece of paper to be recognised as a fighter. he was good enough to teach his own style.. you think that was all just fairy dancing?

vonhelmet said:
With Jack Bauer commentating?

yup that would be the icing on the cake (fruity kind).

beh · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:44

Depth said:
If he was so good, he could have easily proved himself so much better than everyone else then in Brazil, but never did. I wonder why....

Heh, prolly wanted to keep his face "pretty" for the films

Depth · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:44

Phantom said:
you think he was just an actor? you dont always need the media around you and numbers (of fights) on a piece of paper to be recognised as a fighter. he was good enough to teach his own style.. you think that was all just fairy dancing?

yup that would be the icing on the cake (fruity kind).

So, we just have to believe he is this incredible (bascially the best ever known) fighter with no evidence?

If I told you, and my friends backed me up, that I was a better boxer than Muhhamad Ali, would you believe me?

Depth · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:44

beh said:
Heh, prolly wanted to keep his face "pretty" for the films

But I thought he was too quick to get hit, and would finish anyone pretty much instantly, especially with no rules?

Phantom · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:46

Depth said:
But I thought he was too quick to get hit?

he's only human.. (didnt he do some nerve damage from some guy kicking him when his back was turned after the fight - going by the story of his life)

Depth · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:49

Phantom said:
he's only human.. (didnt he do some nerve damage from some guy kicking him when his back was turned after the fight - going by the story of his life)

So your saying Fedor might actually catch him with one of those haymakers then? Or get his hands on him (which he would only need to do for about half a second before throwing down such a small man).

benjo plz. · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:49

Depth said:
Hunt has taken loads of those kicks, and never once been KO'd. According to you, he should have been many times. Again, why won't you answer the question? Why has he not been KO'd?

I never said he should have been knocked out. The side of the neck will knock the majority of people out, but its the front and the back of the neck that are most effective for striking. He seemed to go down pretty good at 3:30.

Depth · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:51

Phnom_Penh said:
I never said he should have been knocked out. The side of the neck will knock the majority of people out, but its the front and the back of the neck that are most effective for striking. He seemed to go down pretty good at 3:30.

But still got straight up. He was knocked down because of the force of the kick, not because he was losing conscienceness.

And while it may Ko the majority of people, it doesn't KO him.

benjo plz. · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:53

Depth said:
And while it may Ko the majority of people, it doesn't KO him.

/mental note not to hit simoans in the neck.

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Phantom · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:54

Depth said:
So your saying Fedor might actually catch him with one of those haymakers then? Or get his hands on him (which he would only need to do for about half a second before throwing down such a small man).

theres always that possibility yes but as a master of win chun which teaches how to defend against attacks like the one fedor throws it wouldnt be a worry for him. bruce lee knew where to hit to bring an opponent down with minimal effort.

benjo plz. · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:55

Phantom said:
but as a master of win chun

*cough* Lee wasn't.