Bruce Lee vs....

panthro · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:29

Phnom_Penh said:
This thread's a joke.

It is. A total joke with people trying to justify their opinions when they cant actually prove anything. Its all speculation. It entertains me to read it though.

willd58 · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:30

MrSix said:
Clearly you don't understand the principles of pressure points.

"I'm gonna stick my finger in your armpit and paralyse you" - good job, obviously you have a much broader knowledge of all things combat than me.

This is what idiotic pressure point talk im reffering to

Phnom_Penh said:
You smack a guy in the throat and crush their windpipe, which is a pressure point, and kill them.

I apologise if thats not the kind of retarded statement you were thinking about, feel free to show me some other kind of "pressure point" tactic's that MMA professionals throughout the globe have ignored and would destroy any apponent with them.

MrSix · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:31

Willd, are you the one with the FTO?

benjo plz. · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:32

willd58 said:
I apologise if thats not the kind of retarded statement you were thinking about, feel free to show me some other kind of "pressure point" tactic's that MMA professionals throughout the globe have ignored and would destroy any apponent with them.

Pressure points aren't allowed in pro MMA rules UFC etc, so there aren't any. They don't ignore them, they aren't allowed to use them.

willd58 · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:34

MrSix said:
Willd, are you the one with the FTO?

Nope

Phnom_Penh said:
Pressure points aren't allowed in pro MMA rules UFC etc, so there aren't any.

O rly?!

Man, i find it hard to believe how much people will talk about somthing they clearly have no idea on.

MrSix · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:35

Who are you then, because I don't remember you - putting a face to a name might help me understand your manner in this thread.

Treefrog · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:35

willd58 said:
Yea, thats worked well throughout the MMA hasnt it.

Is that supposed to be a question?
If so, then ask someone who a) has a TV, and b) cares.
And have your :rolleyes:

back with interest :rolleyes:

willd58 · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:38

Treefrog said:
Is that supposed to be a question?
If so, then ask someone who a) has a TV, and b) cares.
And have your back with interest

So your admitting commenting on somthing you actually have no clue about? Good one!

MrSix said:
Who are you then, because I don't remember you - putting a face to a name might help me understand your manner in this thread.

I dont see how, or why, that matters, nor do i understand how i have a "manner". Im just a big fan of MMA.

I was the guy on the RR day who you discussed Fox with, I stuck up for him etc etc

That was our only interaction really.

panthro · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:39

willd58 said:
Man, i find it hard to believe how much people will talk about somthing they clearly have no idea on.

Im slightly confused now. Are you saying that pressure points are useless in fighting applications or just in mixed martial arts et al?

MrSix · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:40

Nope don't remember.

Out of interest, what practical MMA, Traditional Martial Arts or Combat sport experience to you have?

benjo plz. · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:40

willd58 said:
O rly?!
Man, i find it hard to believe how much people will talk about somthing they clearly have no idea on.

have you read the rules?

Buttkicker · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:43

Gracie was a world class MMA fighter (one of the greats) Bruce Lee has no record at all as a pro fighter, a few exibition bouts here and there and movie star buddys etc, does not make him a World class fighter
this thread is about could Lee take on Fedor Emelianenko

the answer is yes he might of dared step in the same ring... but no sporting body would sanction such a contest - with the reasons being obvious
9 stone actor to fight 18 stone heavyweight champion

must add I am utterly convinced that David Carradine would have knocked the crap out of George Foreman and Randy Couture

willd58 · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:45

panthro said:
Im slightly confused now. Are you saying that pressure points are useless in fighting applications or just in mixed martial arts et al?

MMA theyve been proved pretty useless, what with practionars of them having there bum's handed to them on plates every time theyve come up against an actual competent fighter.

Phnom_Penh said:
have you read the rules?

To which MMA? There are many different kinds, it would be very silly to, i dunno, Blanket them all with a statement such as

"Pressure points aren't allowed in pro MMA rules"

MrSix said:
Nope don't remember.

Out of interest, what practical MMA, Traditional Martial Arts or Combat sport experience to you have?

Apart from the odd Boxing and Judo years, I havnt competed. Im not what one would call gifted on the physical element of MMA. Doesnt stop me taking a huge interest in the sport though.

willd58 · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:47

Buttkicker said:
Gracie was a world class MMA fighter (one of the greats) Bruce Lee has no record at all as a pro fighter, a few exibition bouts here and there and movie star buddys etc, does not make him a World class fighter

No, but the fact that he was a extremely talented fighter, makes people rate him (and claim he would anhilate Tyson, which he would)

Buttkicker said:
this thread is about could Lee take on Fedor Emelianenko

Its gone a bit OT, but its obviouse to everyone who knows about the sport that Fedor would kill Lee, there would be allmost no contest.

Ill check back on this thread later

-Colli$ion- · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:49

Great thread lol

Seems like everyone is fighting each other in here

I personally think Bruce Lee would win … if there was no rules!

Reasons: 1) he has amazing second to none speed punching/kicking
2) he has excellent accuracy
3) he knows where pressure points are, and simply put if you get hit in a pressure point hard enough, (I presume Bruce’s punches are pretty hard considering there is a relationship between speed and power) then your going down, whether your 300 lbs or 100 lbs.

Although if Bruce missed his opportunity and got taken to the floor, he would lose!

Ooo yea .. and everyone saying a film star vs a pro fighter ect lol …… Bruce Lee was an expect professional martial artist before he was a film star, its like saying Arnold Swartzenneger (sp) a body builder.. hahaha … he’s a film star !!

MrSix · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:50

willd58 said:
Apart from the odd Boxing and Judo years, I havnt competed. Im not what one would call gifted on the physical element of MMA. Doesnt stop me taking a huge interest in the sport though.

No, you're right, obviously we can't all be gifted at physical activities.

However, if you are open to suggestions or ideas from others who may have more experience than yourself, then here's a little titbit for you.

Don't snub other peoples theories and ideas when you yourself have little practical experience of fighting, you only watch from your comfy chair at home. You only see UFC and other such MMA showcased events and don't fully understand the different techniques from other styles.
You yourself said you dont understand why people with such little knowledge on a subject talk about it so much, well the same can be applied to people who only have second hand knowledge on a subject. Unless you've actually learned about pressure points and utilised them or had somebody show you how it feels and what they do, please don't make out like somebody with far more practical experience than yourself hasn't a clue about what they are saying.

panthro · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:52

Just to clarify, pressure points (in this case offensive points) are for the user to severley incapacitate or kill the opponent.
They are not used in sport tournaments because of this.

willd58 said:
Its gone a bit OT, but its obviouse to everyone who knows about the sport that Fedor would kill Lee, there would be allmost no contest.

Whilst I dont agree with most of what you have said, I will agree with you on this (if it was a ruled MMA competition), but please remember that this cannot be proven, so its mere speculation and assumption.

reflex · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:55

Just out of interest does anybody know any universities that teach Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu ?

Its kind of to do with this thread

benjo plz. · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:55

willd58 said:
To which MMA? There are many different kinds, it would be very silly to, i dunno, Blanket them all with a statement such as

I wasn't refering to a specific mma, I was refering to the sporting bodies, as you said proffessional MMA fighters. UFC doesn't allow it, especially throat attacks. K1 doesn't allow it, neither does pride. Smacking a guy in the throat will do some serious damage, unless you're like weenie man, MMA bodies don't allow it probably for two reasons, 1, you're going to end up with fatalities, 2. it's not going to be much of a fight if someone gets killed in the first round

Buttkicker · 3 Sep 2006 at 20:56

willd58 said:
Its gone a bit OT, but its obviouse to everyone who knows about the sport that Fedor would kill Lee, there would be allmost no contest.

Ill check back on this thread later

at last some common sense prevails, Bruce Lee made some good action movies, but a lot of people seem to think that fighting 50 people at a time is real life
those film fight scenes were choreographed to the last detail and shot over and over till they looked good on screen
in a real fight there is no 2nd take to make it look good or better WYSIWYG
warts n all
its also obvious that lots of contributors to this thread believe he would take on 50 at a time and eat Tyson and Fedor for breakfast
this is the end of my contribution to this 'Bun Fight'
have fun guys

if anyones inteerested here is a link to some pics I took last year in Las Vegas UFC
http://eventphotographer.smugmug.com/gallery/1013601