It sounds quite likely that in the 70s when building new areas they didn't want to put poles up because people didn't like to look at them, but the idea of using ducts hadn't really occurred to anybody because why would you ever need to replace a telephone cable? So there's a lot of these areas where the cable is armoured and buried directly in the ground like power cables are which makes deploying FTTP a lot more expensive.
BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion
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Yeah mine is the same, built in the early 80s. Armoured copper line to the house just buried with no duct. A local FTTP altnet after some ranting caved and dug my garden up for me and laid ducting at no cost, now have 1Gb symmetrical full fibre for £29pm. 
Openreach swiftly came behind and installed full fibre a month later after the altnet. Managed to catch a QA/Surveyor bloke checking the engineers work, spoke to him and he said we'd do the same these days. Survey the job, decide best way to dig and just fit ducting per install request. Ultimately his verdict was we can't decline to install and provide a fibre service without exploring all options and digging if necessary.
Must be incredibly expensive in some areas if they started to see a lot of uptake on FTTP orders, if that's their renewed attitude (although refreshing!)
Openreach swiftly came behind and installed full fibre a month later after the altnet. Managed to catch a QA/Surveyor bloke checking the engineers work, spoke to him and he said we'd do the same these days. Survey the job, decide best way to dig and just fit ducting per install request. Ultimately his verdict was we can't decline to install and provide a fibre service without exploring all options and digging if necessary.
Must be incredibly expensive in some areas if they started to see a lot of uptake on FTTP orders, if that's their renewed attitude (although refreshing!)
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For last 2-3 years I have been trialing BT TV IP testing , which meant full BT TV Pro box and all channels free of charge I just had to send in reports test new features etc . After trial finished service carried on and is now due to end on 16/12/23 , few months back we had Fibre 900 fitted so I rang today to cancel BT TV as the out of trail cost would be £80 and we just have bog standard Sky . So cancellation was going ok till the agent said your need to re contract the fibre 900 and new cost is £78 as you lose the BT TV discounts i knocked off halo 3 which brought it too £70.99 which I'm still not happy about .
Anyone got any ideas as that seems over priced ?
Anyone got any ideas as that seems over priced ?
Yes it’s overpriced. You can get 900 Mb from TalkTalk for £45.
That is just for fibre 900 no TV , seeing as its a new contract now I might try cancelling using the 14 day cooling off period worth a punt
Definitely worth shopping around, especially as Black Friday deals are surfacing.That is just for fibre 900 no TV , seeing as its a new contract now I might try cancelling using the 14 day cooling off period worth a punt
That is just for fibre 900 no TV , seeing as its a new contract now I might try cancelling using the 14 day cooling off period worth a punt
70 quid is more than their standard rate for 900, i'd be on the phone to understand why, perphaps you have some options enable you don't need?
So many upsells through the sign up, easy to take something.
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Because we had the "Full" BT TV pro package with a couple of mini boxes to test FOC when they offered Fibre 900 we must have got quite a few discounts added . If I'd have known in September about the cost when the FOC BT TV ended would have stayed on FTTC till 16/12/23 when the trial ended and ordered 900 then . I'm going to Call billing complaints aqnd have a good whine about the price and unforeseen prices with out the BT TV , I can get 900 from vodafone for £36 as I have a few mobile tariffs with them
Do you need a backup? It's a lot of money to spend on a just-in-case style connection. Bear in mind you can get a competent ISP to light up an existing Openreach ONT within a day if you hit a long-term problem on VM, and might be able to tether a phone to bridge that gap.
From a different perspective, for me its reasonable to pay for a 900/100Mbps Aquiss/OR connection as well as VM in a failover configuration even if a few ISPs could potentially setup a connection in a day (and over the weekend).
It's not just for the rare VM failure and better latency, but whenever there is a power outage VM drops immediately as do most of the local mobile towers (and those that remain become overloaded until their batteries fail). I've only had a few 1 hour or less power outages since OR FTTP was fitted 7 months ago but for that time the OR FTTP connected and that's all I need to finish important and potentially costly tasks.
Looking at my system logs its surprising how often the WAN switches from one to the other in either direction as some devices use VM as the main ISP, some OR FTTP.
Both valid points. I'm going to proceed with the cancellation and see how it goes. The VM deployment here is reasonably new, and since it's been connected back in the summer it's been perfectly fine (except from the upload issue which they finally fixed).
Agree, fast.com results always seem abit excited!
Absolute nonsense. I don’t know they still say this, it doesn’t apply to fibre.