BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

opethdisciple · 19 Jun 2013 at 22:43

Hmm two days ago my hub needed to be restarted in order to connect to the internet.

I thought things where running alittle slow so I did a speed test to find I am only getting 69mbps... when before I was getting 75mbps. Not a huge difference but a difference enough for me to consider turning modem off and on again...

Terrier_Jimlad · 19 Jun 2013 at 23:05

I wouldnt keep switching it off, BT's DLM is pretty sensitive

opethdisciple · 19 Jun 2013 at 23:28

Terrier_Jimlad said:
I wouldnt keep switching it off, BT's DLM is pretty sensitive

Havent turned the modem off in ages, it was the hub that needed a restart.

But I've lost some speed.. I'll see if it recovers.

andi · 20 Jun 2013 at 12:15

The man from BT comes tommorrow. BT are saying up to 70mb, which will be an improvement over the 1mb I get now! Can't wait.

CSA · 20 Jun 2013 at 12:24

parityboy said:
Type your phone number into this.

Im getting quoted 31meg according to that checker,how accurate are these things usually ? of course 31 is a lot better than my current 7meg but i was hoping for closer to 50

parityboy · 20 Jun 2013 at 12:47

@CSA

BT's estimates are pretty conservative, but I believe that conservatism reduces as you get further from the cabinet. For example, according to this page

VDSL2 deteriorates quickly from a theoretical maximum of 250 Mbit/s at source to 100 Mbit/s at 0.5 km (1,600 ft) and 50 Mbit/s at 1 km (3,300 ft), but degrades at a much slower rate from there, and outperforms VDSL. Starting from 1.6 km (1 mi) its performance is equal to ADSL2+.

I'm 320M from my cabinet by road, so I should get the full 76Mb/s, however the ADSL checker estimates 59.1Mb/s, a difference of 16Mb/s. The further you are away from the cabinet, the smaller this difference will be as the estimate and the limits of VDSL2 start to converge.

CSA · 20 Jun 2013 at 14:04

thanks, im estimating about 800 or maybe 900ft from the cab

EDIT: according to google its 0.4miles so thats 640'ish feet,i reckon i should expect more than the 31meg quoted ?

KIA · 20 Jun 2013 at 16:21

CSA said:
thanks, im estimating about 800 or maybe 900ft from the cab

EDIT: according to google its 0.4miles so thats 640'ish feet,i reckon i should expect more than the 31meg quoted ?

Maybe 40Mb/s @ 0.4 miles. Line length is probably longer than you think.

opethdisciple · 20 Jun 2013 at 22:44

Petty i know but I seem to have lost 5mbps downspeed and 1mbps up.

My ping has gone up too...

Do you think its worth restarting the modem? I dont restart it often.

parityboy · 21 Jun 2013 at 09:26

KIA said:
Maybe 40Mb/s @ 0.4 miles. Line length is probably longer than you think.

I was thinking the same, 40Mb/s sounds about right. Lines usually follow the road, but there are more than a few surprises around the country...

Uncle_Gravy · 21 Jun 2013 at 09:57

Well...I wasn't expecting to get a response like this from Superfast Cymru

Mr *****

We can confirm from the deployment plans that your postcode area and cabinet 18 on the Cwmbran is within scope of the Superfast-cymru programme and will be enabled for the fibre product FTTP. Due to ongoing planning activities there is not a confirmed date for the work to be carried out.

My bottom has just erupted.

biron_w · 21 Jun 2013 at 10:10

Thank you for your enquiry. You are connected to the Otley Exchange, cabinet 4.

Our systems indicate that work is ongoing with the deployment of your cabinet and, if all goes to plan, we are hopeful the cabinet will be ready for service early-mid August 2013, barring any complications.

It's about time! They've only put work back about 5 times since 2011!

Cuchulainn · 21 Jun 2013 at 10:35

biron_w said:
It's about time! They've only put work back about 5 times since 2011!

Seems like everyone is getting that standard early to mid August reply at the moment.

Uncle_Gravy · 21 Jun 2013 at 10:48

If FTTP is planned for my Area, Surely the option of FTTC should be there aswell...right?

As much as I would like FTTP i'm not prepared to pay the £500+ fee for getting it (Unless that's covered by Welsh Government) Then the i'm assuming Hefty monthly fee, not worth it if i'm livestreaming Twitch and downloading games now and then, 40/10 would suit me perfect.

CSA · 21 Jun 2013 at 11:05

40meg would be a nice increase on my current speeds, thanks for the info guys

the wopster · 21 Jun 2013 at 11:34

biron_w said:
It's about time! They've only put work back about 5 times since 2011!

How long did it take to get a response back from BT?

andi · 21 Jun 2013 at 12:05

Installed and getting 79mb! That'll do

Unfortunately only gettin 35 over wireless. Need to get some powerline adapters or run some cat 5e I think!

KIA · 21 Jun 2013 at 13:57

Uncle_Gravy said:
If FTTP is planned for my Area, Surely the option of FTTC should be there aswell...right?

As much as I would like FTTP i'm not prepared to pay the £500+ fee for getting it (Unless that's covered by Welsh Government) Then the i'm assuming Hefty monthly fee, not worth it if i'm livestreaming Twitch and downloading games now and then, 40/10 would suit me perfect.

No. The installation and month fee will cost the same if you buy the Infinity product from BT retail.

The max you can expect to pay for installation is £100 odd. Maybe you got the £500 figure from FTTP on demand.

parityboy · 21 Jun 2013 at 16:32

@KIA

You're right - the installation fee alone for FoD is £500. Re: standard FTTP it seems to be a bit of a lottery where OpenReach decide to deploy it. Do you know if they have a tangible rationale for choosing FTTP over FTTC in a given area?

JAzz · 21 Jun 2013 at 18:51

If your exchange isn't listed can they still provide with Fibre on Demand?