BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

kefkef · 3 Oct 2013 at 11:58

Just installed. Initial guestimate was 60Mb/10Mb, actual is 75/15 moving up from a 5/0.8 broadband deal. No hassles, engineer was a really nice guy, took around 30 minutes from the old broadband being cut off to the new stuff being up and running.

Anyone know when they will be doing away with the old openreach white modem and getting it all up and running through the BT HomeHub 4?

parityboy · 3 Oct 2013 at 11:59

mogwai said:
Using google maps I am 643m from the cabinet and was estimated to get 44 mb/s but actually get 53 mb/s.

Johnnytoxic said:
I'm about 90 meters and get 75 Mb.

kefkef said:
Just installed. Initial guestimate was 60Mb/10Mb, actual is 75/15 moving up from a 5/0.8 broadband deal. No hassles, engineer was a really nice guy, took around 30 minutes from the old broadband being cut off to the new stuff being up and running.

Going by this information, I might get 68Mb/s, maybe 70 at a push.

kefkef · 3 Oct 2013 at 12:06

Samknows says my exchange is 2357m away, which was confirmed by the engineer to be the one he did the work in. Says he was getting the full up/down at the exchange so would only be line loss that caused anything to not be as quick.

PiKe · 3 Oct 2013 at 12:07

Fibre uptake on your cabinet can effect your speed though, due to crosstalk.

KIA · 3 Oct 2013 at 12:28

kefkef said:
Anyone know when they will be doing away with the old openreach white modem and getting it all up and running through the BT HomeHub 4?

The HH5 will have a built-in VDSL2 modem.

kefkef said:
Samknows says my exchange is 2357m away, which was confirmed by the engineer to be the one he did the work in. Says he was getting the full up/down at the exchange so would only be line loss that caused anything to not be as quick.

At the cab, probably.

parityboy · 3 Oct 2013 at 12:57

KIA said:
At the cab, probably.

Yep. With FTTC the DSLAM is now in the fibre cabinet which is why distance-to-cab matters. With ADSL, the DSLAM is in the exchange, which is why distance-to-exchange mattered.

Gavin · 3 Oct 2013 at 13:00

is it worth me ringing them up as ive had it nearly a year now and my speeds were not up to the estimate to begin with and i was told they would get faster over time. Only my speeds are now less than 20mb and im on the upper tier business connection version.

NZB · 3 Oct 2013 at 13:01

PiKe said:
Fibre uptake on your cabinet can effect your speed though, due to crosstalk.

Something that i'd guess (hope) is more a problem in areas not already blanketed with high speed lines from VM.

Cosimo · 3 Oct 2013 at 13:39

DirtyJester said:
Just goes to show, you can't have everything.... yet

Good luck

I'm getting Infinity speeds on my mobile now. Might as well tether the house to it.

parityboy · 3 Oct 2013 at 14:02

Cosimo said:
I'm getting Infinity speeds on my mobile now. Might as well tether the house to it.

You have 4G? Who with, EE?

no_1_dave · 3 Oct 2013 at 15:23

I am 432m from my cab and I am synced at the full 80/20 with BT
Speed test shows 76mb down and 18mb up

That 432 is following the road around. All cables are under ground and I am on a new estate, house is only 5 years old.
Not sure if that makes a difference.

Cosimo · 3 Oct 2013 at 15:39

parityboy said:
You have 4G? Who with, EE?

Yup with O2. Last time I did a speed test it was 38Mbps/17Mbps.

PiKe · 3 Oct 2013 at 16:06

I'm gonna guess as more people move onto 4g the nodes will get congested, so enjoy it, whilst it lasts.

On Holiday · 3 Oct 2013 at 16:11

parityboy · 3 Oct 2013 at 16:23

no_1_dave said:
I am 432m from my cab and I am synced at the full 80/20 with BT
Speed test shows 76mb down and 18mb up

That 432 is following the road around. All cables are under ground and I am on a new estate, house is only 5 years old.
Not sure if that makes a difference.

Thank you for that. I now have a better idea in my head about what I might get, line quality notwithstanding.

Cosimo said:
Yup with O2. Last time I did a speed test it was 38Mbps/17Mbps.

Nice!

I wonder if O2 will venture into fixed 4G wireless for rural areas. The market is certainly there.

PiKe said:
I'm gonna guess as more people move onto 4g the nodes will get congested, so enjoy it, whilst it lasts.

Good point.

Caged · 3 Oct 2013 at 16:26

KIA said:
The HH5 will have a built-in VDSL2 modem.

And 802.11ac Wi-Fi. It really ups the game in terms of ISP-provided kit.

Locky · 3 Oct 2013 at 18:22

no_1_dave said:
I am 432m from my cab and I am synced at the full 80/20 with BT
Speed test shows 76mb down and 18mb up

That 432 is following the road around. All cables are under ground and I am on a new estate, house is only 5 years old.
Not sure if that makes a difference.

It does as you will be on nice new and shinny .5 copper

russ9898 · 3 Oct 2013 at 18:43

Roughly how long ago did BT start installing larger diameter cable? Our house is approx 15 years old so curious. I can see the BT cable leave the duct and then covered by capping. The cable is round and approx the size of a cat5e cable not the old twin cable which looks a little like bell wire.

.Griff. · 3 Oct 2013 at 18:56

russ9898 said:
Roughly how long ago did BT start installing larger diameter cable? Our house is approx 15 years old so curious. I can see the BT cable leave the duct and then covered by capping. The cable is round and approx the size of a cat5e cable not the old twin cable which looks a little like bell wire.

Late 80's. You still see some bell wire CDW's about but most of it is CAD55 or DW10/15 these days.

russ9898 · 3 Oct 2013 at 18:59

Fingers crossed when fibre is available the estimate of 66mbit BT are giving will increase. I'm only 200m walk from the cab and can see roughly how the ducts run by following the various BT pits in the pavement so it shouldn't be a wildly longer run.