BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

TheUnkn0wn · 10 Jun 2013 at 15:28

I upgraded to BT Infinity Option 2 (76MB/ps Download, 20 MB/ps Upload) last year. I then noticed after a while (a few weeks after installation because of the 10 day sync time) that my speeds would slowly decrease after a few days and this would require me to restart their "Home Hub 3.0" to bring my speeds back up again.

I was getting quite sick of this so I decided to by a Billion 8200N since it also has a built in modem (meaning I could dispose of their "Home Hub 3.0" and Huawei Modem). Unfortunately the Billion 8200N wasn't compatible with BT's ECI cabinets, so I had to use it with the Huawei Modem for it to work which solved the speed dropping problem (which means the Home Hub was to blame).

In the mean time I contacted Billion via their UK forums and two months later I was given a test firmware for the Billion 8200N that worked fine with BT's ECI cabinets. This meant I could now use the Billion without any of BT's hardware.

For those wanting to view my thread on the Billion forums regarding the 8200N here's the link : http://www.billion.uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=449

Bluntwrapped · 10 Jun 2013 at 15:45

I've had my BT Infinity since it went live and last year I upgraded to option 2. I'm really pleased with the speeds I'm getting, 8mb/s+ on Usenet.

Does anyone have Infinity 2 yet?

stoofa · 10 Jun 2013 at 15:55

Bluntwrapped said:
I've had my BT Infinity since it went live and last year I upgraded to option 2. I'm really pleased with the speeds I'm getting, 8mb/s+ on Usenet.

Does anyone have Infinity 2 yet?

Infinity 2 is just the "up to 80mb" service isn't it?

Orcvader · 10 Jun 2013 at 16:43

stoofa said:
Infinity 2 is just the "up to 80mb" service isn't it?

That's what I thought. Infinity 3 is the FTTH/P one.

On Infinity 2 but only getting 33mb averagely due to a crazy distance from me and the cabinet... Better than the old 4mb ADSL service so not complaining that much.

parityboy · 10 Jun 2013 at 20:47

TheUnkn0wn said:
I upgraded to BT Infinity Option 2 (76MB/ps Download, 20 MB/ps Upload) last year. I then noticed after a while (a few weeks after installation because of the 10 day sync time) that my speeds would slowly decrease after a few days and this would require me to restart their "Home Hub 3.0" to bring my speeds back up again.

I was getting quite sick of this so I decided to by a Billion 8200N since it also has a built in modem (meaning I could dispose of their "Home Hub 3.0" and Huawei Modem). Unfortunately the Billion 8200N wasn't compatible with BT's ECI cabinets, so I had to use it with the Huawei Modem for it to work which solved the speed dropping problem (which means the Home Hub was to blame).

In the mean time I contacted Billion via their UK forums and two months later I was given a test firmware for the Billion 8200N that worked fine with BT's ECI cabinets. This meant I could now use the Billion without any of BT's hardware.

For those wanting to view my thread on the Billion forums regarding the 8200N here's the link : http://www.billion.uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=449

That throughput is pretty impressive, although the ping times are a little high. The Billion looks like a nice bit of kit.

lozzd · 11 Jun 2013 at 00:11

TheUnkn0wn said:
I upgraded to BT Infinity Option 2 (76MB/ps Download, 20 MB/ps Upload) last year. I then noticed after a while (a few weeks after installation because of the 10 day sync time) that my speeds would slowly decrease after a few days and this would require me to restart their "Home Hub 3.0" to bring my speeds back up again.

I was getting quite sick of this so I decided to by a Billion 8200N since it also has a built in modem (meaning I could dispose of their "Home Hub 3.0" and Huawei Modem). Unfortunately the Billion 8200N wasn't compatible with BT's ECI cabinets, so I had to use it with the Huawei Modem for it to work which solved the speed dropping problem (which means the Home Hub was to blame).

In the mean time I contacted Billion via their UK forums and two months later I was given a test firmware for the Billion 8200N that worked fine with BT's ECI cabinets. This meant I could now use the Billion without any of BT's hardware.

For those wanting to view my thread on the Billion forums regarding the 8200N here's the link : http://www.billion.uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=449

So what is your sync rate? Is the Billion somehow getting around the limits imposed? Shouldn't be possible to get that high on an 80mbit sync....

Locky · 11 Jun 2013 at 07:48

lozzd said:
So what is your sync rate? Is the Billion somehow getting around the limits imposed? Shouldn't be possible to get that high on an 80mbit sync....

Don't worry it must be a bugged test, he won't be getting more than his ip profile.

Bluntwrapped · 11 Jun 2013 at 12:42

stoofa said:
Infinity 2 is just the "up to 80mb" service isn't it?

Oh I thought Infinity 2 was the new 160mb service.

I've just spoken to someone using the online chat. It's not available in my area

arch · 13 Jun 2013 at 13:02

Just had mine installed

Over wifi, Pretty happy. Was with Virgin for 15 years until I moved house 2 weeks ago

Gilbert89 · 13 Jun 2013 at 14:14

Orcvader said:
That's what I thought. Infinity 3 is the FTTH/P one.

On Infinity 2 but only getting 33mb averagely due to a crazy distance from me and the cabinet... Better than the old 4mb ADSL service so not complaining that much.

I struggled with anywhere between 0.5 / 1.5MB for years, finally went with FTTC I am also quite a distance from my CAB.

BT predicted 23.3MB and 5MB Upload (Regardless of package) So I went with BT Infinity 1 which is Up to 38MB Download.

After a month now the day I was installed I get 27MB Download 6.9MB Upload, Over Wireless 26/26.5MB

Now If you can only get 33MB averagely, Would BT Infinity Option 1 not be better for you assuming it's cheaper.

NUTTER123 · 13 Jun 2013 at 23:33

Not sure if this is the correct place to ask.

I'm syncing at 52 MB yet utorrent is stuck at 1.1 1.2 mb (was 2.4 but I played with settings and i've messed it up) It seems i've not really got full use of speed torrents yet

opethdisciple · 13 Jun 2013 at 23:49

I just use the speed wizard settings.

Set upload speed capped to 1Mb and the rest it takes care for you.

I force protocol encryption to on and do not allow legacy clients to connect.

Jester* · 15 Jun 2013 at 18:15

Just wondering if anyone has got any experience of this.

I live in Ashford, Kent. 2KM away from my exchange which is accepting orders for fibre. Now when using the FTTC my cabinet status is "Removed or Deferred from deployment".

What does this actually mean? I find it hard to believe there is not enough interest in fibre as my estate is 7 years old and growing fast. If anything I would have thought it would be an ideal candidate to have it already installed. Any help/advice would be appreciated.

Jester* · 15 Jun 2013 at 18:19

Just wondering if anyone has got any experience of this.

I live in Ashford, Kent. 2KM away from my exchange which is accepting orders for fibre. Now when using the FTTC my cabinet status is "Removed or Deferred from deployment".

What does this actually mean? I find it hard to believe there is not enough interest in fibre as my estate is 7 years old and growing fast. If anything I would have thought it would be an ideal candidate to have it already installed. Any help/advice would be appreciated.

Locky · 15 Jun 2013 at 18:26

Means bt deem the cab uneconomical to fibre.

Any BDUK projects in your area?

Jester* · 15 Jun 2013 at 18:33

whooops double post

the wopster · 15 Jun 2013 at 19:15

I have just had a look on the BT where and when site and it now says my exchange is accepting orders, but when I look up BT and sky's websites they still say its not avalible does anyone have any idea how long it takes to filter down to be able to order? by the looks of it all of the fibe cabinets im my area are in ( well the one I'm connected to is and a lot of others on the estate).

Randomface74 · 15 Jun 2013 at 19:16

same situation as me, it means the cabinet isn't done - you'll never find out when it will be done

Rroff · 15 Jun 2013 at 19:19

lozzd said:
So what is your sync rate? Is the Billion somehow getting around the limits imposed? Shouldn't be possible to get that high on an 80mbit sync....

The max profile seems to wander around a bit, when I first had it installed it was showing 0 (actually capped at 80 exactly), then for awhile it was wandering around 85 think I even saw 87 one time but for the last month or so its been 77 which seems to be what most people at full speed are capped at now.

EDIT: I think BT have sometimes played around with uncapping and stuff to as once or twice I have been downloading something on say iTunes and suddenly out of nowhere the speeds will burst up from around 74MBit/s to almost 200MBit/s for a few moments and the file will complete way quicker than it could at my normal speeds and plays fine.

rmuir · 15 Jun 2013 at 19:50

Finally, six months after seeing the cabinet installed I've been able to place an order, sky fibre getting installed on the 5th of July! Can't wait to move on from the 2 meg line I have at the moment.