BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

Armageus said:
Cat 7 isn't a real standard, and flat cables are rarely standard compliant.

Stick to standard cat5e or cat6
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Just to elborate on that a bit more, it's is not an IEEE standard and is not approved by TIA/EIA. It's a proprietary standard developed by a group of companies.
 
I have a flat cable running around 20 odd metres fed from living room, upstairs and into gaming room, went for the flat option as could mostly slide down side of carpet unseen, 2 years and no issues.
 
Do Netomnia lay fibre as sub-contractors for Openreach, or only for their own network? The BIDB has sprouted half a dozen works sites for Netomnia along the main roads behind my street (if that makes sense). They all say "M J Quinn to install floorbox with 1 metre duct in verge to floorbox". I'm surrounded on all sides by Netomnia roadworks (we live inside something of a triangle of main roads). Where I live is served by the Stanley exchange, but Netomnia's rollout plan says that only the adjoining Stonedale exchange is in their rollout plan. I can see their new 'floor boxes' from my back window, so I'm wondering if they are actually laying works as part of the ongoing Openreach fibre project in this area instead? I see YouFibre offer 10G so I'm not fussed either way, it'd just be nice to know and neither company's website has proven helpful.

Edit: Netomnia replied that they are indeed in the design stage in my area, and hope to finish laying fibre in the next few months. They appear to be racing Openreach. YouFibre business 10G would be nice. :D
 
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Just to weigh in on the flat vs round cable thing, ANY cable is fine. What you may find is that once you get over a certain distance (let’s say 30m) the flat cable may not hold the rated speed as well as a ‘proper’ cable. As has been pointed out, flat cables make it easy to run cables as you can touch them down the edge of carpets, under carpets and under doors with very little hassle.

So, on one hand, they’re not fabulous and on the other hand they‘ll put a smile on your face because they’re still better than WiFi, power lines and communication crystals….
 
The ONT install....

Does the external wall box have to back on to the internal ONT box?

Or can the internal ONT box be in another room, run with with a cable?
 
You can have it where you want. The external box usually goes at the top of the existing capping but the cable that runs off to the ONT can go halfway around your house if you want before poking through the wall.
 
Caged said:
You can have it where you want. The external box usually goes at the top of the existing capping but the cable that runs off to the ONT can go halfway around your house if you want before poking through the wall.
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That's the thing, I'd like my ONT to be where my current phone socket is which is not on a external wall. It's more to the centre of my flat.

So can a fibre cable be run to that location inside the property with trunking by OR?

I'm asking as CityFibre did this with a family members install. Wondering if Openreach will too.

I mean they can do it, question is will they. I'll see tomorrow.


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Yes they can run the internal cable on the surface and clipped if you want. I don't think they will do the trunking for you, but if you get some D-Line stuff and install it they will use it.
 
Annoyingly the offer with BT has gone now, and they can’t see anything like that existing on their system

The best they offered me was £49.99 a month


Looking at Vodafone, but their router is terrible.


Don’t want to buy my own as it defeats the point of going cheaper.


If I did get my own, what’s recommended? Not looking to faff around building my own router.

Ideally WiFi 6E as the only devices on WiFi are 6E compliant (except smart devices)
 
JonRGV250 said:
How so?
My Vodafone went live this morning and seems equal to the BT hub I had previously.
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My Dad has their router and it's just terrible for connection. Since turning off the WiFi and replacing it with Google WiFi it hasn't gone down once.

He would have continuous troubles with controlling devices on the network and just staying connected


Could well be a faulty router to be fair. If yours is working, that's great :)
 
MrRockliffe said:
Annoyingly the offer with BT has gone now, and they can’t see anything like that existing on their system

The best they offered me was £49.99 a month


Looking at Vodafone, but their router is terrible.


Don’t want to buy my own as it defeats the point of going cheaper.


If I did get my own, what’s recommended? Not looking to faff around building my own router.

Ideally WiFi 6E as the only devices on WiFi are 6E compliant (except smart devices)
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Which offer?
 
robj20 said:
Which offer?
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I was seeing a contract renew price of £27.99 on my account. When I rang them to ask where it went, they mentioned it must have been 6 months half price, but it wasn't - I took it to check-out stage to check, and it mentioned nothing about it being 6 months. All it said was "this is £31 per month less than what you're paying now"


They were doing crazy hard selling though, saying things like:

  • If someone else is cheaper, they're cheaper for a reason
  • Everyone increases their price in April
  • We're doing our customers a favour by letting them renew their contract in March, to lock in at a lower price
  • BT are the only openreach ISP to offer a stay fast guarantee on 900 Mbps of 700 Mbps
  • If you don't take this offer it won't be available again - that's your choice
 
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MrRockliffe said:
I was seeing a contract renew price of £27.99 on my account. When I rang them to ask where it went, they mentioned it must have been 6 months half price, but it wasn't - I took it to check-out stage to check, and it mentioned nothing about it being 6 months. All it said was "this is £31 per month less than what you're paying now"
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You should have done it whilst you had the chance! :D
 
MrRockliffe said:
My Dad has their router and it's just terrible for connection. Since turning off the WiFi and replacing it with Google WiFi it hasn't gone down once.

He would have continuous troubles with controlling devices on the network and just staying connected


Could well be a faulty router to be fair. If yours is working, that's great :)
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Fair enough.
I’ve only had the VF router running for an hour before work this morning, so I guess there’s time for it to go wrong.
Fwiw I will say that (so far) Vodafone have been great.
I ordered online, they sent the router when they’d said they would and it was live this morning.
It’s also £40 pm cheaper than what BT wanted with their price increase.
 
JonRGV250 said:
Fair enough.
I’ve only had the VF router running for an hour before work this morning, so I guess there’s time for it to go wrong.
Fwiw I will say that (so far) Vodafone have been great.
I ordered online, they sent the router when they’d said they would and it was live this morning.
It’s also £40 pm cheaper than what BT wanted with their price increase.
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What are you paying, if you don't mind me asking?
 
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