Budget gaming build

thingemajib said:
It oesnt really matter in what context the ebay link is used, if a mod sees it, you could end up with a suspension (it is in the rules). Stick aorund and you'll learn the lingo round here to be able to make your point without ringing the bay into this.

i was just joking about the whole skulltrail thing, loosen up :p

i know ive already said this but i think this will be an interesting one to follow. i like the the core idea, but you perhaps should have done a tad more research on the odd thing here and there. If you are going to share your plans here, 99 times out of 100 you should expect some criticism. thats life :p
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whatever youve done somebody would always want to change some aspect.... personnally i like to hear others thoughts on the matter as my own mates are in to....well not pcs anyway......you seem a clever guy for your age so stick around and learn something like we all do.....and learn to take alittle criticism on your build to make it better and not to put you down :)
 
i know, last night i was tired and frustrated.
today hasn't been much better.
my second heatsink came in the post, the motherboard cooling fitting is not standard therefore i had to make my own fitting bracket.

also 4 of my 6gb ram arrive, it was listed as 4gb ram, it turned out to be 1gb 2x 512mb, so now im getting a refund and trying my luck a second time.

later i may upload a picture of the parts i have at the moment so everyone can see how its going, it will be an untidy D.I.Y pc.
but if i can find a way to use all 8 cores onne one program i cant Imagen it will let me down.

i would buy more parts and replace some stuff but at the moment i gaze into a wallet with only £45 in.

i was open to criticism but i didnt expect to be told to scrap my ideas and start over, if i start a job, i finish a job.

thank you for everyone's comments so far, i look forward to some more (just as long as your not to harsh) Happy new year
 
hi zac,

i built my first pc when i was 14 (im now 16), i though i knew everything (seriously i thought i did). I had saved up untill i had around £550 to spend on a PC.

So i bought everything that i thought was perfect (which it was far from) all arrived, so excited and i built it. everything went perfectly, installed windows settled down to play some age of empires III ( :p ) then my cheap crappy PSU died (cant remember exactly what make it was, but i had bought it for £50 and it was 850W), turns out it took my CPU and mobo with it. I was gutted. the money i had spent the best part of a year savin up for had pretty much burnt in front of my eyes.

So i started saving up again, and this time i came here, the amount of advice i got was amazing (along with the criticism). anyways enough of my story :p was just trying to get my point across about how good research is before you buy. (EDIT: sorry if that sounded a bit patronising it wasnt meant to)

Basically im trying to say that we live an learn, especially about PSU's, again, as everyone else has said, using that PSU may kill your whole PC, but if you want to take that chance then its up to you.

In regards to the rest of your build, i admire you for what you have managed to pull together, yes it may be a 'strange' gaming build, but as you say your not doing much serious gaming so it should be fine :)

and yes the 8 cores will definately help with photoshop and the fact you got them for that price is even better.

i would think that 10gb RAM would be over kill, but depending on how you develop your experience with PC's (if you decide to play around with VM's for example) then the extra RAM will be of great use......so if you can get it cheap and you can afford it then there will be no harm in buying it :)

I think everyone else on here got a little edgy because of the fact it was such an unorthodox pc for gaming and then the PSU just set the alarm bells ringing :p

also i would stay on this forum, the amount of help and advice i have got from here is huge, and (most of the time :p ) it is always friendly :)

good luck with your PC and i hope it doesnt decide to blow up on you
 
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hellarda said:
hi zac,

i built my first pc when i was 14 (im now 16), i though i knew everything (seriously i thought i did). I had saved up untill i had around £550 to spend on a PC.

So i bought everything that i thought was perfect (which it was far from) all arrived, so excited and i built it. everything went perfectly, installed windows settled down to play some age of empires III ( :p ) then my cheap crappy PSU died (cant remember exactly what make it was, but i had bought it for £50 and it was 850W), turns out it took my CPU and mobo with it. I was gutted. the money i had spent the best part of a year savin up for had pretty much burnt in front of my eyes.

So i started saving up again, and this time i came here, the amount of advice i got was amazing (along with the criticism). anyways enough of my story :p was just trying to get my point across about how good research is before you buy. (EDIT: sorry if that sounded a bit patronising it wasnt meant to)

Basically im trying to say that we live an learn, especially about PSU's, again, as everyone else has said, using that PSU may kill your whole PC, but if you want to take that chance then its up to you.

In regards to the rest of your build, i admire you for what you have managed to pull together, yes it may be a 'strange' gaming build, but as you say your not doing much serious gaming so it should be fine :)

and yes the 8 cores will definately help with photoshop and the fact you got them for that price is even better.

i would think that 10gb RAM would be over kill, but depending on how you develop your experience with PC's (if you decide to play around with VM's for example) then the extra RAM will be of great use......so if you can get it cheap and you can afford it then there will be no harm in buying it :)

I think everyone else on here got a little edgy because of the fact it was such an unorthodox pc for gaming and then the PSU just set the alarm bells ringing :p

also i would stay on this forum, the amount of help and advice i have got from here is huge, and (most of the time :p ) it is always friendly :)

good luck with your PC and i hope it doesnt decide to blow up on you
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Well my PSU arrived in the post today.
i cant see a problem with it, it has over current protection so i don't think it will kill the rest of my pc.

it is quite heavy and beefy, also a huge 14cm blue led fan in it.
i was surprised to see it brand new and sealed.
it also comes with a lifetime warrenty.
im happy with it, but i suppose there is still room for it to got wrong.
i am now eagerly awaiting my case so i can build it (FINALY)
i think ill see how my computer runs with only 2gb-3gb of ram but its cheep-ish and i could buy an extra 8gb for around £80
thanks for everyone wishing me good luck, im probably going to need it
 
People are just vary wary of PSU brands, straying from the normal trusted ones tends to give people - including myself - the fear :p

I, among many others, bought what I thought would be a decent PSU in the Hiper Type R 580w... how wrong were we!?
 
lol.
im happy with myne anyway. its better than what i planned to use.
i was going to use a storm 500w psu, i bought it new for £20. so see my psu as an improvement to what i was going tot use.

i decided to run a test to bios (open planed without case)
to my amazement it went to bios first time, i doubted it would evan get that far before i had to replace something.
i am now only waiting for, my case, my fan controller,fan exetension leeds and thermal compuond.

i am unbelivebly happy it works. i cant wait.:):D:):cool::p;):):D
 
:D:D:D*UPDATE*:D:D:D

today i came home to find a ginormas box with my name on it.
it was my case.:D:D:D

i opened it to find a dusty akasa a62 case.
had a couple of bad things.
the motherboard tray needs modding to fit the heatsink mounts.
so tommrow evening that will be cut to the right size.

the top 120mm fan mount was custom made on the top panel of the case, the glue used was strong, but didnt keep the fan mounts in the right place.

so i am going to drill the holes for the fan mount through top panel of the case
glue the mounting screws in place, glue the shroud back in place.
trim the shroud so the fan lies level with the panel.
use a sheet of mush to stop dust getting in.

i also received and some cabling thermal compound.

so, over the next few days the case will be moded, i will boot a operating sytem. i will install a fan controller.

i will keep the system at 2gb ram for the moment, but i have enough money to upgrade, if necessary.

cant wait to get this system running properly.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
put some pics up :P

i would say 10gb is a tad overkill. I presume your board had dual channel memory, so i would say 4gb is the sweetspot at the mo (for the average pc on these forums its 6gb, but thats only on i7 systems with triple channel memory). However, if you do find something that uses up all 8 cores at once, then you might be better off with 8gb. Even at the price you mentioned, theres no point in going past 8gb yet, you are just wasting money.
 
yes, it holds 4 sticks of ddr2 pc5300f
may go 4, may go 6, may evan go 8 gb but probably not 10gb.
but for the moment i will stick with 2gb.
as for pictures ill have them up when im done.

anyway **Update**

everything in and wired exept the mobo and the top 120mm fan.
should be modding it tommorow evening, and also installing win7.
i will take pictures of it working, hopefully on saturday
 
well, i have it running, still not 100%.
system gave my cpu's a score of 7.5, witch is not bad, and everthing elese is about 5.5 giving a score of 5.8-ish
runs a charsm, its super quick, i installed adobe cs5 in under 20 mins
nothrbridge and ram seem to be exetreemely hot, after reinstalling thermal past the northbridge cooled a little
no freezez, and obv i chose to install win7.
my uknow graphics card turned out to be a 256mb or a 512 mb ardeon x1300/x1550 from a dell dimension.

my fan speed controller doesnt work. its 4pin and i have 3pin fan's
so i will get 2x fan controllers for 3 pin fans, as you can imagen this thing gets pretty hot

i palyed mafia 2 and a racing gam, they both ran realy well, and at most ive ony use 25% of my cpu power

anyone know any overclocking programs that will overclock the xeon 5435 cpu's?

anyway, once i have bought a few more tings, modded the case in som diffetrent ways and got everything runn 100% it will be time to post pics and share with you my creation
 
ZZZAC said:
anyone know any overclocking programs that will overclock the xeon 5435 cpu's?
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Overclocking programs are a gimmick, they only work for GPU (e.g. afterburner)

You have to go into the BIOS, but if you said that was a HP motherboard I doubt it even supports overclocking.

Also you said that your system is already getting hot and you have only used 25% of your computing power.

So why on earth do you want to overclock your processors, making them even hotter, using about 10% of your CPU, drawing more wattage from your processors, and putting more strain on your cheapo PSU.

(inb4 you're too harsh I wish I never joined these forums.)
 
ZZZAC said:
well, i have it running, still not 100%.
system gave my cpu's a score of 7.5, witch is not bad, and everthing elese is about 5.5 giving a score of 5.8-ish
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Gratz on getting the PC running, I know my first attempt at a full build didn't go anywhere near as well (smoke and a smell of burning).

I wouldn't look to overclock anything just yet. get a program like speedfan. let us know what temps you are getting at idle. if they look okay it might be worth running Prime95 for a few hours to make sure everything is stable and you will be able to see just how hot everything is getting.

As others have said, we are all very scared of cheap PSUs, almost everyone on the forum will be able to remember the time they fried a motherboard or worse.

anyway as i say, good job on getting everything working, you have a nice starter machine there to play with, it would also make a nice home server if you ever get into that side of computing.
 
i have been playing mafia 2 smoothley, and i was only useing 20% cpu power.
speedfan is donwloaded. to be honest my temps look alright.
temp 1 49c
temp 2 60c northbridge
temp 3 35c cpu 2
temp 4 48c chipset
cpu 37c
ram 1 56c
ram 2 62c

so, as you can see the only overheat temps are my northibridge chipset and ram.
my northbridge has a small heatsink, but different fittings to normal, and my ram has ramsinks.

so im thinking of cuom making a biger, northbridge heatsink. and getting a ram fan cooler.

ive spent all my money, some on stuff for case, and cathodes.
btw this is not my first build, its my first exepensive scratch build, ive rebuild stuff before
 
now im not very aware of the details of workstation setups, but im very doubtful that the ram has its own temperature probes, and that its running that hot (have you actually tried touching them and seeing if they're this hot or thereabouts?)
i just have a hunch that its reporting some other tempature incorrectly as your ram temperature, anyone feel free to step in and correct me on that one...

northbridge is a tad on the hot side, but its not the worst ive seen. Have you tried running a prime 95 blend test on it and seeing what temps it hits then?
 
i have touched the rams and northbridge, thats what gave me an idea about the temps.
i have ballenced a fan on my graphics card pulling air from the northbridge and ram witch saw the ram ducking to about 48c.

my gpu has been overclocked and made 700mhz core clock and 600mhz memory clock (i think)
i used msi after burner, and if i try increese over what i already have overclocked to it just rests them to 700. so i think my overclock is max.

as for the rest of it im still waiting on new fan speed controller and need some longer sata cables, then there will be a final tidy and it will be done and dusted.

A problem i have is you cant use ram on win7 32 bit. and on post it says 211 memory loading error, clot 2?
anyone have any clue how to fix this?
 
UPDATE>
i was installing a new NB cooler, i tooke of the cpu cooler and the cpu for a moment for some reason or another.

there was a bit of thermal compund on the cage for lga 771 (like 775)
It spilt onto the pins, it is a silver compound and has probably killed my motherboard hence it not turning on.
anyone got any ideas how i do this without having to save £450 to buy a skultrail gaming board
 
I am going to sell my 2 quad core 2.33ghz cpu's and hopefully earn enough moeny to get a amd phenom xII hex core cpu GOOD MOTHERBOARD that will alow overclocking and 4gb ddr3, and maybye the collermaster v8gt cooler.
anyone any thoughts abou that?
 
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