Poll: Burka Ban?

Should the burka be banned?

  • Yes

    Votes: 482 47.2%

  • No

    Votes: 156 15.3%

  • Get stricter with it's wearing, for ID purposes etc.

    Votes: 370 36.2%

  • None of the above

    Votes: 13 1.3%
  • Total voters
    1,021
sr4470 said:
So you would also ban helmets, balaclavas and other headgear? Can't see that going down too well.
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helmets have a purpose.
You try walking around wearing a balaclava and see how long before you are stopped and questions/ asked to remove it. Other headgear is not likely to prevent identification is it.

either Personally wouldn't mind if they were banned.
 
D D Danneh said:
You shouldn't have to face repercussions from claims of discrimination just because you wish to feel safe. Like I said, I can understand the beliefs behind the burka, but the issues with security are far more important in my opinion than religion.
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I was saying in terms of a local shop/supermarket, but you cant control what people think :p
Through legislation or otherwise

If you said to all women they have to take off their tops before entering your store, how well do you think that will go?
 
LabR@t said:
helmets have a purpose.
You try walking around wearing a balaclava and see how long before you are stopped and questions/ asked to remove it. Other headgear is not likely to prevent identification is it.

either Personally wouldn't mind if they were banned.
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Why not just ask to have it moved when it is appropriate for security reasons then instead of banning it? :confused:
 
Hell, you can walk around naked with a radish up your arse when you're in the privacy of your own home for all I care, but there are certain social niceties you should adhere to when in public. And I think wearing balaclavas or burkas don't adhere to these social niceties.
 
LabR@t said:
ok wear when not in public, ie in the home.

No problem with that.
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So don't wear it in public just because you don't like it? Since when does wearing it about the place cause a security risk?

Should shops have the discretion to ask people to remove any head wear? Yes. Does this mean banning the burka in public? Not at all.
 
Nitefly said:
Why not just ask to have it moved when it is appropriate for security reasons then instead of banning it? :confused:
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Because the justifications provided aren't the true motives, hence no desire to accept a suggestion that perfectly answers their stated justification?
 
Chronictank said:
If you said to all women they have to take off their tops before entering your store, how well do you think that will go?
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Sure, why not? :D

Seriously? Because you cannot identify someone from CCTV by their breasts. A face is much more recognizable, and in the event of a crime, recognizing the culprit is what you need. Removing a top would serve no useful purpose, whereas removing a burka (or indeed, hoody or balaclava), would.

Maybe in the case of a local shop or supermarket it isn't quite so important, but it should still be up to the owner/security's discretion to decide whether anyone should have to remove material that could obscure their face.
 
Quick question?
Islam originated from hot middle eastern areas, which include desserts and arid planes, With a unpredictable and short water supply.
So who's grand idea was it to where heavy black (a heat absorbing colour) fabric? Surely they must have been passing out or unable to leave the shade of a house? Was that the point, i more subtle ball and chain.

ANd back on topic, I personally believe we don't have the right to say what people can or cannot to do to a certain point but i feel very strongly that wearing a burka not only has a detrimental effect on the wearer but also has the same sort of effect on the male population.
The effect i feel that the burka give the male population is an aura of superiority, which i feel can be not only a bad social situation but also a risk to the wellbeing of the user ( Honour killings etc)

The burka to a civilized nation represents in its most basic form slavery, it takes away the ability of the wearer to express their emotional and projected self and it also highly inhibits the persons capability to communicate with overs due to the hiding of body language.
 
Abraxaz1 said:
Quick question?
Islam originated from hot middle eastern areas, which include desserts and arid planes, With a unpredictable and short water supply.
So who's grand idea was it to where heavy black (a heat absorbing colour) fabric? Surely they must have been passing out or unable to leave the shade of a house? Was that the point, i more subtle ball and chain.
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Haven't QI covered this? I don't think it makes that much difference what colour you wear, the key is in the type of fabric.
 
thepharcyde said:
don't ban burkas, just ban all religions.

Sorted
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Yep, but the burka is not religiously based no matter what you get told. Nowhere in the Q'uran does it stipulate mandatory burka wearing for women.
Burkas were actually intended to stop men seeing the flesh of Moslem women (other mens chattle ahem... wives) and being driven into passion by the sight of afore said flesh. Not wearing a burka is akin to prostituting yourself by all accounts.
So, my point is... burka wearing is pretty pointless in this country as I can't see too many native Britishmen being driven into the fiery realms of passion by the sight of a fat, sweaty, mustachioed woman who reeks of BO because her religion forbids deoderant (and soap it seems).
Just BAN IT!
 
Dolph said:
And be worse than the worst of the middle eastern states?

Fantastic victory for freedom that would be.
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What is the difference between a religion and a cult?
Would you have banned the Branch Davidian religion that killed themselves or the Catholic cult that has massacred hundreds of thousands and almost, as a matter of course, abused young boys?
Maybe religion is NOT a good thing. I think you are talking about just banning the WRONG religion like Middle Eastern despots do.
Religion became irrelevant in advanced societies a long time ago. It was replaced by luxuries.
 
*whistles* http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...rmed-robbers-disguised-burkhas-raid-bank.html

Daily Fail etc.

Armed robbers disguised in burkhas escaped with thousands in cash after carrying out a post office raid in Paris.
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In August in the UK a robber dressed from head to toe in a traditional Muslim woman's burkha raided a travel agent, and also made off with thousands in cash.

There were similar raids in other parts of the country, with one burkha-clad robber getting away with £150,000 from a jewellers in Banbury, Oxfordshire.
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