C2Q Q6600 "GO Stepping" now available at OcUK!

melbourne720 · 24 Jul 2007 at 10:47

Bob_geldof, that sig is too big, read the FAQ.

Welcome to the forums btw.

Bobmunkhouse · 24 Jul 2007 at 11:29

IT Troll said:
I have read elsewhere that these aren't expected to hit the shelves until mid-August or September.

I hope this is not true we really need some kind of ETA...Gibbo??

Bob_geldof · 24 Jul 2007 at 17:36

melbourne720 said:
Bob_geldof, that sig is too big, read the FAQ.

Welcome to the forums btw.

k removed and tar

just hoping for some kind of eta believe intel are yet to decide so suppose il wait until an announcement comes that way.

Richdog · 24 Jul 2007 at 20:03

drunkenmaster said:
why isn't it unreasonable. i've worked for a computer e-tailor before, i've checked, much harder, to weed out good chips for people for free, but thats more a favour and no garentee. we would have charged a premium if we actually sold them for more, actually we didn't for the ath xp-m's, we just checked they were all the same code and listed the code's on the site no premium. that was also harder because they were OEM, and checking the tiny code on a smallish cpu. retail intels have the codes printed in big on the sides and it takes 10 seconds to check a cpu. if you can check 6 cpu's a minute, 360cpu's in an hour and someone warehouse staff is making probo £10 an hour. £10 extra per chip does to me, seem excessive.

Didn't you say on ***** forum that it was in fact OCUK you used to work for? But weren't they a lot smaller back then and shifting less CPU's?

Scoobie Dave · 24 Jul 2007 at 21:04

Im not buying into this 'G0' stepping marketing. Im just gonna go for a normal B3 Q6600. I think its all down to a bit of luck which cpu you get and how much vcore you have to put through it at the end of the day. Im on decent watercooling so I have got a good chance of getting something reasonable. Might as well save myself a few quid and get a B3 stepping.

jamieuk23 · 27 Jul 2007 at 22:03

Ok for the people that really ead in to these things whats the genral feeling on GO around the web is it worth waiting for it or what ??

B3 now or GO in a few weeks ?

Elmer · 27 Jul 2007 at 22:53

The guys over on the XS forums seem to be getting some very good G0 Q6600 clocks on air e.g one guy at 3.74 GHz stable

jamieuk23 · 27 Jul 2007 at 22:55

has there been any hint of when they are comming in stock ?? I need one in the next week or I will just buy a B3 version

think that 3.7ghz overclock on that forum is more lucky CPU than anything

easyrider · 27 Jul 2007 at 22:58

Elmer said:
The guys over on the XS forums seem to be getting some very good G0 Q6600 clocks on air e.g one guy at 3.74 GHz stable

after I forced the issue for him to run orthos

smit101 · 28 Jul 2007 at 00:17

Elmer said:
The guys over on the XS forums seem to be getting some very good G0 Q6600 clocks on air e.g one guy at 3.74 GHz stable

Probably Engineering samples though,not really representative of what retail silicon will be capable of.I have a B3 Q6600 myself and it will clock to 3600 quite happily on a P35 chipset board,on 975X I can only manage 3GHZ.

Anyone wanting an overclocked Quad system would be best advised to make sure the right board is used as opposed to sniffing out certain cpu steppings.

I don't think this G0 stepping is the holy grail of quad steppings,they're probably no better than earlier steppings but due to the initial non reaction to quad cpu's from the consumer,Intel felt the need to stoke interest with some clever marketing.

drunkenmaster · 28 Jul 2007 at 00:25

Richdog said:
Didn't you say on ***** forum that it was in fact OCUK you used to work for? But weren't they a lot smaller back then and shifting less CPU's?

actually no, i didn't. the theorys the same if you sell 10 cpu's or 100's, it still only takes a certain amount of time to check cpu's, you would generally expect most batches to be largely the same stepping aswell. the fact is it might take a little time to separate out, so you need manpower to do it. but one, two hours is PLENTY, as with anything else, you stack up different part numbers separately in the warehouse so its a one time thing, the pickers go pick up from section 28a or 28b. unless a warehouse picker/packer/stock guy is making more than £10 for every G0 they could find, its excessive. not to mention that £175 is quite a ways off being the cheapest B3 stepping in the UK.

fornowagain · 28 Jul 2007 at 00:37

smit101 said:
Probably Engineering samples though,.

Nope its a retail, on a P35 board though. So you could be right about that.

drunkenmaster said:
unless a warehouse picker/packer/stock guy is making more than £10 for every G0 they could find, its excessive. not to mention that £175 is quite a ways off being the cheapest B3 stepping in the UK.

You're right about that £10 to look at a box and stick it in pile A or B sounds a bit much. Still with two steps in the stream, if you want a guaranteed stepping its a price lots will pay, I would.

easyrider · 28 Jul 2007 at 01:37

smit101 said:
Probably Engineering samples though,not really representative of what retail silicon will be capable of.I have a B3 Q6600 myself and it will clock to 3600 quite happily on a P35 chipset board,on 975X I can only manage 3GHZ.

Anyone wanting an overclocked Quad system would be best advised to make sure the right board is used as opposed to sniffing out certain cpu steppings.

I don't think this G0 stepping is the holy grail of quad steppings,they're probably no better than earlier steppings but due to the initial non reaction to quad cpu's from the consumer,Intel felt the need to stoke interest with some clever marketing.

Have you actually read the thread?

They are retail chips.

Don't justify your b3 based on no research and probablys

easyrider · 28 Jul 2007 at 01:40

fornowagain said:
Nope its a retail, on a P35 board though. So you could be right about that.

You're right about that £10 to look at a box and stick it in pile A or B sounds a bit much. Still with two steps in the stream, if you want a guaranteed stepping its a price lots will pay, I would.

Please..

Retail chips don't come in individual boxes.

They come in big brown boxes on pallets.

with the batch on the sticker on the outside of the box FFS

don't be so naive....

smit101 · 28 Jul 2007 at 02:43

easyrider said:
Have you actually read the thread?

They are retail chips.

Don't justify your b3 based on no research and probablys

I'm not trying to justify anything,my chip does exactly what I require of it and thats great!

The G0 is nothing more that a B3 cloaked in Intel marketing blurb! But thats o.k cos the B3's are great anyway!

Intel realise that you little suckers need to be brainwashed into a purchase,hence the G0 BS!

Rojin · 28 Jul 2007 at 03:11

smit101 said:
I'm not trying to justify anything,my chip does exactly what I require of it and thats great!

The G0 is nothing more that a B3 cloaked in Intel marketing blurb! But thats o.k cos the B3's are great anyway!

Intel realise that you little suckers need to be brainwashed into a purchase,hence the G0 BS!

Just sounds like you are defending your purchase tbh. Overclockers always go for the low power versions as they pretty much always clock better than standard desktop chips. This is the way it has always been , this is nothing new... :rolleyes:

drunkenmaster · 28 Jul 2007 at 03:27

Rojin said:
Just sounds like you are defending your purchase tbh. Overclockers always go for the low power versions as they pretty much always clock better than standard desktop chips. This is the way it has always been , this is nothing new...

actually, not very often. as i said with now chips generally get better over time, both amd/intel bin chips, and they keep a fairly close eye on how they are improving. hitting certain points, reducing the chip to £100/£200/500, or 50w/60w/80/120w are all points where someone will start to buy the chips.

so *** chips that average at 105W over 6 months finally hit a point where none break 95W so intel slap a new code on it, not for marketing wizardry or anything, just so Dell know they can order in G0's to fit in boxes designed for 100w's worth of cpu.

the mobile XP chips rarely if ever did better than any other chips, people hit anything from 2.5-2.7 with them, just as anyone could make anything XP really hit those speeds.

the low power x2 isn't really hitting anything higher than normal ones. in general, its just the unbinned cheap version of chips that become the "must have" chips. which is essentially saying, when someone finds the same chips as the top end, but rebranded as something else, people find them and buy them, be they mobiles, low clocked, midrange, whatever.

intel and amd bin less than they badge chips up as whatever speed chips they need most. dell come in and say they really need 3000 2.4Ghz chips, they've got none in stock, they do all the next lot as 2.4Ghz. its called business.

you could find extreme edition p4's hidden with some cache disabled as i think 2.8Ghz, where they M0 steppings, they weren't low power, overclocked ok but people went mad trying to find them.

past the 2.8C p4's i didn't have anything that couldn't hit 3.6Ghz stable, other than one 2800+ ath 754 every 939 chip i had could do beyond 2.6Ghz, thats from launch of 939 up till last one i got which was probo a 4400+ x2 when they became available.

i had a 2200+ t-bred a that i got to 2.35Ghz, then every single t-bred b chip i had did 2.5-2.7Ghz.

got a E6600 that does 3.6Ghz and i bet i can get that out of my B3 quad which arrived today.

smit101 · 28 Jul 2007 at 03:30

Rojin said:
Just sounds like you are defending your purchase tbh. Overclockers always go for the low power versions as they pretty much always clock better than standard desktop chips. This is the way it has always been , this is nothing new...

whats new is the fact,that they are charging a premium for a stepping that may or may not clock higher than others.

Ocuk aren't exclusively stocking this stepping,it's the newer version of the quad and all etailers will be stocking it once B3 stocks are exhausted,don't be suckered into an extra tenner from this lot,wait a while and the market will be flooded with 'em,some good some crap,same as ever!

They can't guarantee a good clocker without first sticking it in a system and spending time tweaking it.

drunkenmaster · 28 Jul 2007 at 03:33

Rojin said:
Just sounds like you are defending your purchase tbh. Overclockers always go for the low power versions as they pretty much always clock better than standard desktop chips. This is the way it has always been , this is nothing new...

overclockers hear/see low power chips and, theres results for like 4 chips on xtreme, with like 2 threads at 10pages long with everyone claiming they are great. like this thread.

overclockers hear lowpower/mobile/xeon/opteron and they go out in masses and buy only those chips. this is the reason you see so many good results for the chips, but the thing in common is the 10 page long threads claiming how great they are, before anyone has them. people are convinced of it, and no one buys other chips whatever results the hyped chips get become "great" without anything to compare it too.

fornowagain · 28 Jul 2007 at 03:52

easyrider said:
Please..

Retail chips don't come in individual boxes.

They come in big brown boxes on pallets.

with the batch on the sticker on the outside of the box FFS

don't be so naive....

You crack me up, always so literal. Read it again. I was being flippant, you know sarcastic, a deliberate simplification to illustrate a point? Jez, there is no need for the tone.

But my point exactly, the SKU is on the consignment note, there is very little effort to scanning a bar code and allocating stock. Sorting the correct part numbers is no effort, no more than any two product. Lol, I've actually installed and designed dynamic POS/ISC systems. I have the slightest inkling on how they work thank you. I still think if a large firm want to charge a premium for a guaranteed anything then people will pay.