Can a vegan diet make me strong. Let's find out.

Take it o e step at aim for something to reach by the end of this year, then next year etc. your life time goals are world record breaking so you might want to research in to some numbers before being overly optimistic.

Great enthusiasm, just don't set yourself up for a disappointing journey, as that will just put you off.
 
170 by the end of 3 years is realistically achievable and potentially even low, but then you have a dietary challenge that many lifters don't.
Agreed. Achievable in less time than that, as you say.

On the diet front, I guess by making maximum use of soy stuff the aims are doable. Short of soy, yer screwed.
 
Met a vegan online and she gave me a lot of insight and stick for being a vegetarian (she was a vegan). I remember saying what's wrong with milk and she made me aware of it. I never took her serious enough and went vegan a year later but not for long. Now I'm sticking to it.

Translates to: "I'm pasty whipped and would eat my own faeces to impress a girl"

I feel this log is for our friend Captain Planet, but bizarrely he's off eating animals in an actual theatre of war, and making more gains :D

WUT? :mad:
 
Fair play, but to repeat my earlier question is your lifestyle going to be vegan as well as your diet.

Read the OP.

Translates to: "I'm pasty whipped and would eat my own faeces to impress a girl"

I had and still have a girlfriend. This vegan girl I used to try and disprove her all the time.
 
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Push it to 16st 6 and you too could have feets like these..
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So you don't own any leather or other such products?

I can't say for 100% if anything I own had an animal involved. I don't own a leather chair, belt. I couldn't even afford to if I wanted, most things are made of faux leather these days. My shoes are faux suede. I do have an awesome T shirt made of cow though.

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So you're only a quasi vegan really then else you'd be putting a lot more effort into this research and spending more to get good quality goods.

Your diet will be inadequate so you've obviously thought of supplementation.
 
I'm eating a vegan diet and I'm not buying animal products, also I've only being vegan for around ten months. I cut out everything bit by bit. You don't know how much time or money I've spent on anything. My diet is not inadequate either.

Your starting to be unnesseceraly defensive like the last time, ff was making conversation and not having a dig. Based on your comment that you were not 100% sure about anything you own had animal involvement does highlight a lack of research in to your lifestyle choices, this was not a dig, merely a surmised fact, there was no need to retort.

As ff knows substantially more about food then many on here, I believe his comment about your diet being inadequate was due to the fact that a vegan diet is not easy to get balanced and will be inadequate for your high end goals, which will not be possible without using suppliements to fill out your diet.
 
You will make gains in your lifts. This won't be down to whether you're vegan or carnivore one bit. This will happen through conditioning, technique and your body physiology reacting to simply lifting weight. After that though, if you do manage to make real gains in your weight lifting, and put on some serious lean mass, I will congratulate you.
 
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Looked like he was overstating my words to make statements about me that aren't true, at least that's how it looked. Especially when he didn't even try to confirm his preconceptions. Trust me I've done a ton of research. Freefaller, I wasn't being defensive to you, just stating the facts.

Freefaller may know a lot about food but how much does he know about a vegan diet and how much I eat? I'm a member of a vegan forum which has given me a lot of advice already, but he doesn't know this.

Captain Planet
Yep spot on, beginner gains will come easy but I'm glad you don't think my diet will hold me back. This is the goal of the thread. Thanks.
 
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Knowing about vegetarianism or veganism is irrelevant, as knowledge of nutrition trumps those specific bits of knowledge as it covers every nutritional element.

I was offering advice. You're being defensive, further proving that this whole thread is a sack of ****. You will not get the full range of optimal nutrition through a vegan diet alone, to get all the range of minerals and vitamins and amino acids to help you grow and get strong will be very difficult without some form of supplementation, unless you are willing to spend the money on buying a lot of foods. However, you've also showed your lack of knowledge through the dietary breakdown of your chosen vegan foods shredded wheat and bagels for example are not a good example of protein sources.

Do you know anything about Iron, calcium and vitamin B12? These are often woefully short and inadequate in vegetarian/vegan diets. If you take any of those you need to supplement them with vit c to aid the iron absorption as your body will not be doing that efficiently with the lack of nutritional profile. Omega 3s will be short so you will need to boost those too. However you know all this of course.

Next time you make a sarcastic quip at me, think long and hard. Anyway, I'm not helping you any more because it's clear you do not have an open mind and you're too stubborn to listen to advice from people who actually know a thing or two.

Good luck with your dreams.
 
Dude get out my thread then if it's a sack of ****. Shredded wheat and bagels are a source of protein, you don't know what I have with them.
I know about iron, calcium and B12. Do you know about dairy?

You clearly know nothing about a vegan diet. I don't need or want your help. This is meant to be a training log anyways, not a diet thread. I listed *some* of my diet to complete the introductory start of the log. I also stated I don't want to talk about the diet because obviously it's a controversial subject that stirs intense debate on here. I don't want this log getting derailed because of it.
 
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Ok, I was giving this a second chance, as probably many others were, but you are doing the same as last time. Laying in to those with knowledge you could learn from, rather then reading the advice and asking questions, your getting defensive and lashing out. People won't know what your doing unless you say, and your being given opportunity to provide more details and yet your replies are "you don't know what I am doing" which really kills the conversation/information flow.

No more posting from me here, I am out. Good luck Nate, I hope for gains and an attitude adjustment.
 
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