Can you prove that God does not exist?

Glaucus · 1 Jul 2007 at 13:52

Vegetarian said:
snip.

So you picked one verse out of thousands.
some verse are the same some arent. some have completely diffrent meanings. As I said hell is a good one, some say hell some say fire, thats two very diffrent things.

And the argument over which version of these passages has made churches splinter, ones eternal torment which goes against and all loving god, the other means wiped out with fire, which can still fit with the all loving god theory.

Also what church are you from Vegetarian?

Kreeeee · 1 Jul 2007 at 13:53

Vegetarian said:
All bibles are basicly the same - all saying the same stuff.

How naive to quote that bit. The bible has been adapted many time to manipulate the people for political means.

manoz · 1 Jul 2007 at 13:57

Vegetarian said:
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How come some of them say heavens and some say heaven? Surely there's a big difference? How many heavens are there?[/random]

Moley · 1 Jul 2007 at 13:58

Vegetarian said:
They are not the same God... altho Jesus is in islam - islam ignores everything Jesus did and taught. Islam and christianity preach different messages - but at same time says God never changes His mind - so one is lying.

Why only one?

:rolleyes:

Mr.Clark · 1 Jul 2007 at 14:42

Vegetarian said:
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

So where did this God live before he created Heaven?

Klytus · 1 Jul 2007 at 14:51

Mr.Clark said:
So where did this God live before he created Heaven?

duh! The kingdom of the pixies n00b!

Vonhelmet · 1 Jul 2007 at 14:55

No, you can't prove that God does not exist.

I'm sure this fact won't prevent many pages of thoroughly reasonable argument being created.

Elrein · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:08

Ill believe when i actually see him :rolleyes:

The church is the biggest scam know to man IMO

psyr33n · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:10

Vegetarian said:
All bibles are basicly the same - all saying the same stuff.

Learn about the Bible and its transformation over the years before talking like this. Compare something as poetic as the KJV to the more historically reliable NIV—even the Ten Commandments are different (e.g. kill/murder, respectively, and the more ambiguous wording in the KJV to keep things concisely dramatic and powerful), along with a host of different interpretations, wordings and geographical locations. There's a reason that scholars use certain versions of the Bible and not others...

You're so horribly uneducated you could quite easily be mistaken for a troll.

& to all those who simply come out with "I've not seen God therefore he doesn't exist" and analogies to fairy tales, get some sort of perspective before entering the topic.

Clinkz · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:13

'God is all powerful'

If god is all powerful then logically he not only permits but actively engages in evil deeds throughout the world today.

From this, we may consider three outcomes:

God does not exist.
God exists, is all powerful and is also inherently evil.
God exists, is not all powerful and may be a force for either god or evil.

The third option is the only realistic solution since it is not arrogant enough to pertain to know all the answers.

Agnosticism for the win

Drazic · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:14

If he does then why can i not walk across water and do all these things he did!

Not fair to hog it all ya self

Angus-Higgins · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:16

(To answer the question in the thread title [in an amusing way {this is General Discussion

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I can prove that God exists: [a+(b^n)]/n = x

Therefore God exists!

Angus Higgins

Margaret · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:21

AcidHell2 said:
why? as you have no understanding of what's happening?

If God is supposed to be so righteous and great please let me know why there is so much suffering and hate in this world.

For the love of god nobody say "Everything happens for a reason." either.

psyr33n · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:27

Jihad said:
If God is supposed to be so righteous and great please let me know why there is so much suffering and hate in this world.

For the love of god nobody say "Everything happens for a reason." either.

...it's called free will. The point in asking such a blatantly trivial question = ?

Clinkz · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:30

psyr33n said:
...it's called free will. The point in asking such a blatantly trivial question = ?

If free will exists then god is not all powerful?

edit: In fact, if free will exists, then surely god has absolutely no influence in the world. Since all living things must have free will, does this mean the only thing god controls is the weather?

Its a global warming conspiracy. I knew it!

Mr.Clark · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:31

Clinkz said:
If free will exists then god is not all powerful?

Indeed, the two are mutually exclusive.

squiffy · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:34

Clinkz said:
If free will exists then god is not all powerful?

It's a cop out reply. If however religion said "disobey god and a big foot will appear out of the sky and squish you like a bug" then to to observer god is indeed present.

Everything to do with religion has no proof, "faith" and all that are invisble pschyo-babble designed to fool people.

psyr33n · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:46

Stop taking things so absolutely in black and white. The power to assign free will does not imply lack of absolute power—if anything, the opposite—it's one thing to create drones, it's quite another to create one capable of independent thought. Please, please, please get some basic knowledge on the subject before stirring up pseudo-controversy.

yhack · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:48

If God can do anything, can he make a ditch too wide for him to jump?

psyr33n · 1 Jul 2007 at 15:49

FFS, stop with the paradoxical arguments. Anyone can do it, and anyone can create them pertaining to mankind, rendering your existence flawed in such a sense. Boring and irrelevant.