Can you recommend me my first Nvidia in 20 years RTX 2080

[Illuminist]

No rubbing of eyes mate just enable dlss

Mahahhahahahahah, very good

 

[Illuminist]

Exactly what I was thinking.

To be honest as has been said it is the absolute worst time to want to get a new card right now, as prices are about to change, with new from AMD and refresh form NVidia.

Of course if you cannot wait then go ahead. EVGA is a good shout as they have the step up programme and extended warranties available.
Zotac is also a good idea as they have the 5 year warranty (provided you register the card I believe within 28 days)

Personally I would consider a cheap temp card off of a popular auction site to tide you over for a month or so to let the dust settle on the new stuff. or use onboard if you have it. just seen your sig

I will buy a cheap one and send it back in a couple of weeks, I just really want to try the green side after 20 years of amd, have a look at rtx then decide what to do when super comes, to get it or stay with the 2080 until next year when things might look a bit better for all teams including intel

 

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AMD cards have more colour at default, as i found when going to Nvidia, that they were less colourful, the colours looked washed out, but once id upped the Digital Vibrance a bit, they looked exactly the same.

Thanks for the heads up, and that's very interesting

 

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Every single time I update my nvidia driver it defaults the Limited Range RGB 16-235 i have to set it to full 0-255. A bit annoying but a 10 second fix and stops colours looking washed out for me.

That's what I was trying to say a few posts back, I read about this before, this would explain the washed out colours mentioned previously and the better looking amd output

 

[Illuminist]

Your quote from the Navi thread.

What one did you go for in the end?​

I bought a Palit Gamerock 2080, I read up about it and it has a 10+2 vrm and custom pcb with a "A" chip ... please don't tell me it will explode or something

 

[Illuminist]

He's gone quiet, it must've exploded

It did, it exploded with awesomeness all over my eye balls !!!!!!

 

[Illuminist]

The Palit card is amazing, I have a 350w bios on it now (225w on the stock bios) it Oc to 2070mhz core and 7700mhz mem and holds that at 65.C with basically no noise at all

 

[Illuminist]

That sounds a bit wrong

Hope it made you laugh

 

[Illuminist]

The cooler on my GTX 1080 by Palit is the best I've ever owned, I've got nothing bad to say about them and they are even reasonably priced vs the competition.

How does it compare to your Radeon VII by the way?

Honestly, it's a different league, I was explaining to another member that it's like this.

Radeon VII = Ford Focus St - £190 mph
Nvidia = Porsche - 199 mph
Same price for each, but its not just the speed that is slightly different, they just feel in a different league.

I will say that the radeon 7's hbm2 ram makes games loading times non existent compared to the nvidia gddr6, its like the difference between ssd and hdd.
And the drivers are much nicer with the AMD but if they crash the pc needs restarting, as with the nvidia if it crashes it just recovers itself.
I hate to say this but although i loved my radeon 7 so much, this card is just better in nearly every way..........

 

[Illuminist]

I think a lot of that is down to Palit as their cards from my experience are excellent, Nvidia's Founders Edition is still quite hot and noisy although better than other reference cards.

How is frametime consistency and general smoothness because in some games (YouTube videos) I see AMD doing better?

I'm glad you are happy though, at least Nvidia don't make their customers wait endlessly for mediocre GPUs.

Honestly, it seems smoother than amd and the gsync compatibility on my free sync is actually better than when it was free sync with my Radeon 7

 

[Illuminist]

So how you feel about the real Rtx2080 that's going to be released?

Probably will ignore it exists just like the ti
I'm happy to wait for next year's 7nm offerings and choose what is the best from intel, amd and nvidia for the money.
Exciting to see what they all come up with, the 5950xt the Xe and the 3080ti etc

 

[Illuminist]

Fair enough as long as yours clocks well it should be good, + you got it a bit cheaper too ?
I'm trying to put my Vega64 onto a 360mm rad, (not working out too well using the stock lc64 pump), purely to keep the noise down and I do think this will be my last gpu.
I've no interest in upgrading, I'm sick of the price fixing, and the stagnant state of game tech graphics.

I understand that's why I got this card after selling my Radeon 7,it will be it until i see something really worth while, if it doesn't happen by the end of next year I will get a console with mouse and keyboard

 

[Illuminist]

100% false.

Games textures is stored on hard disk either SSD and HDD. When you launched games and it allocated some RAM need to launched games to reached the game menu and then when you started to played game, it will display loading screen. Behind the loading screen you never see what it was doing, the game actually in fact was busy loaded the level or map textures data from hard disk to RAM and then RAM loaded all textures data to GPU VRAM. When the textures loaded to VRAM is completed and the GPU is started to rendered the scenes as game started to play.

Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark loading time.

Radeon VII loading time started at 0:11 and end at 0:38 when benchmark started to run. HBM2 took 27 seconds.

RTX 2080 loading time started at 0:15 and end at 0:29 when benchmark started to run. GDDR6 took 14 seconds.

So HBM2 did not makes games loading times non existent compared to GDDR6 but HBM2 is slower than GDDR6.

You made big mistake bought Radeon VII. Terrible decision.

Not really surprised to heard that Radeon driver crashed will need PC restarted. Horrible driver. Not impressed.

Number 1. You haven't obviously read this thread very well.

Number 2.those videos are on two different systems by two different people.

Number 3. I, me, myself noticed it instantly when playing games after using the 2080

Number 4. I don't have the radeon 7 anymore I have a 2080, I loved the radeon 7 but I wanted to move to Nvidia as I haven't for 20 years and wanted to have a honest opinion of both sides.

 

[Illuminist]

If that was the case then you had a faulty VII. There is no blurring with AMD cards and Freesync. If there was, don't you think there would be ton of reports on it? The only report of blur while using either sync solution came from Nvidia as a warning that some uncertified monitors might be blurry.

But, your words were that it was smoother, not once in either thread did you say blurring, until I said it was placebo.

It's not possible for it to be smoother on one than the other. It's not that kind of tech. Either it's working and it's syncing frames or its not, and if it isn't, it's instantly noticeable.

I will be more detailed as you don't believe me.

When i turned really really fast left to right with the mouse in a fps game, and looked at a mountain in the distance it would be out of focus while moving so fast, i.e blurry or not smooth, it lacked definition of the object.

I tried the same test on the 2080 and the object remained sharp and detailed no matter how fast i moved left and right to try and make it happen.
It just feels smoother in general and i noticed it right away when turning it onto gsync compatable (which it says the monitor is not certified for but still works)

Im just giving my observation, which is completely true as I tested it when i swapped back to the radeon 7 to test it. Freesync worked great don't get me wrong, just when i did the above i noticed a difference.

 

[Illuminist]

This sounds like a Donald Trump tweet.

 

[Illuminist]

Your observation, if it's true and not placebo, tells me that your freesync wasn't working great. Both solutions work the exact same way, both are syncing frames to the monitor, it would be impossible to tell the difference in smoothness if both are working correctly. That's not just me saying this, professional monitor reviewers have noticed no difference between them.

Ah, sorry, I am going to stop, this isn't important anyway!!

What's important is that you are enjoying your new card.

Thanks man! I am
And I have been gaming since I was 5 years old on a vic 20, I can tell the difference. Those reviewers are wrong, on this particular monitor it is different enough that you would notice too if i showed you.

 

[Illuminist]

Fake news!!!

Who is this guy? He's scaring me a little, theres more holes in his argument than i have time or inclination to address....

#Edit - Have the time and inclination to reply, triggered me enough

 

[Illuminist]

Yes I read this thread very well, you should had bought RTX 2080 in the first place.



Your comment is irrelevant. Everybody used systems with different CPU, different motherboard, different RAM, different HDDs/SSDs and different graphic card.

The interesting thing with Radeon VII video used i7 5930K 6C/12T CPU, ASUS X99 Pro motherboard, 32GB RAM, Samsung 970 SSD for OS and lighting fast 3000 MB/s read/2200MB/s write Toshiba 2TB NVME SSD for games where Shadow of the Tomb Raider was installed. RTX 2080 video used i7 6700K 4C/8T CPU, Gigabyte Z170 HD3P motherboard, 32GB RAM, 2x Sandisk SSD Plus 240gb Raid 0 for OS, 2x WD Black 2TB HDDs and 2x Toshiba 3TB HDDs, either one of these slowest HDD where Shadow of the Tomb Raider was installed.



No I never noticed it when playing games with RTX 2080 and previously GTX 1070 on current 8700K CPU with 32GB DDR4 and my old system with 3770K with 16GB DDR3 used old graphics cards GTX 1070, GTX 970, GTX 670 4GB, GTX 470 and GTX 260.

It could be possible down to poor Ryzen RAM timing?

What games did you claimed you noticed it instantly?

Maybe it will be easy if you can upload videos to show us the issue or you could find other videos with same issue.

Ummm..

You win by blunt force confusion and nonsense, congrats

I shouldn't have bought the 2080 in the first place, I want to see both sides to have an informed opinion. (try it, it's fun)

Those systems are different enough to not represent an adequate test result without variables, where as my system was identical, with just the GPU changed between results making it pretty accurate.

You never noticed it using only nvidia cards from different generations..???... well what a suprise, how does that correlate to me comparing freesync and gsync compatible.... ?
My ram timings are amazing actually, the real ones (not my signature, that's a joke~)
are 14.13.13.13.32.42 @3000mhz for 32gb.

Games i noticed this effect in - PUBG - APEX legends - RAinbow 6 siege.

Upload a video you say, but........
"Yes I read this thread very well, you should had bought RTX 2080 in the first place."-- You.
Good reading, I sold the radeon 7 remember...... In this post that you read??