Canadian Grand Prix 2012, Montréal - Race 7/20

drunkenmaster · 8 Jun 2012 at 16:30

lol, great, Vettel doing a bit of a Button, jumping out to pump in a fast lap and get his name in the press, but doing a soft tyre run, getting blocked down the homestraight screwing him up though

Something winds me up both about drivers who go out of their way to get a fastest lap by essentially cheating, (and also often screwing up their actual race setup/testing), and the way the media jump all over fastest in practice as if its some massive indicator. How much has been made of Button being slower in a race despite being fastest in one or two practice sessions, purely because he's done a soft tyre run when everyone else is on hards, or he just jumps out near the end but just before everyone else does a soft tyre run, and he does 2 laps while everyone else does 10-15minutes.

EDIT:- ha, didn't get it on the final lap either, still Hamilton faster on the hards than vettel doing soft tyre run, don't think he was really held up on the second lap much, though I think he wasn't agressive through the final chicane as he wasn't sure if the slow car infront was going through or into the pits. Even if he'd hooked that up, for soft tyres he would have been barely ahead of Hamilton.

CaptainRAVE · 8 Jun 2012 at 16:31

Hamilton looking good here as usual.

Flibster · 8 Jun 2012 at 16:39

HRT mechanic clipped by De La Rosa's car.
Ambulance in the pit lane.

Flibster · 8 Jun 2012 at 16:42

Oh... The reason Vettel is under investigation is because he dived down the inside and hit Senna's wheel, not for the dodgy overtake off the track.

Skeeter · 8 Jun 2012 at 16:43

Flibster said:
Oh... The reason Vettel is under investigation is because he dived down the inside and hit Senna's wheel, not for the dodgy overtake off the track.

Oh. Was that shown on TV? The commentators were under the impression it was for the chicane cutting.

smr · 8 Jun 2012 at 16:44

Why did he just say "soccer time"?

Unless I misheard.

wesley · 8 Jun 2012 at 16:44

anyone knows whats up with sky go F1 channel? the video is really jerky, like 2 FPS. other channels are fine.

Mr Men · 8 Jun 2012 at 16:44

drunkenmaster said:
lol, great, Vettel doing a bit of a Button, jumping out to pump in a fast lap and get his name in the press, but doing a soft tyre run, getting blocked down the homestraight screwing him up though

Yeah cause a 2 times WDC needs to do glory runs, nothing to do with FP2 forecast to be very wet and as such they took the chance to run some SS tyres in FP1.

smr · 8 Jun 2012 at 16:45

drunkenmaster said:
lol, great, Vettel doing a bit of a Button, jumping out to pump in a fast lap and get his name in the press, but doing a soft tyre run, getting blocked down the homestraight screwing him up though

Something winds me up both about drivers who go out of their way to get a fastest lap by essentially cheating, (and also often screwing up their actual race setup/testing), and the way the media jump all over fastest in practice as if its some massive indicator. How much has been made of Button being slower in a race despite being fastest in one or two practice sessions, purely because he's done a soft tyre run when everyone else is on hards, or he just jumps out near the end but just before everyone else does a soft tyre run, and he does 2 laps while everyone else does 10-15minutes.

EDIT:- ha, didn't get it on the final lap either, still Hamilton faster on the hards than vettel doing soft tyre run, don't think he was really held up on the second lap much, though I think he wasn't agressive through the final chicane as he wasn't sure if the slow car infront was going through or into the pits. Even if he'd hooked that up, for soft tyres he would have been barely ahead of Hamilton.

Do you actually watch Formula 1?

You make it sound like Jenson is always topping the practice sessions. Hardly.

Flibster · 8 Jun 2012 at 16:45

Skeeter said:
Oh. Was that shown on TV? The commentators were under the impression it was for the chicane cutting.

Was just shown on SkyF1

Duke · 8 Jun 2012 at 17:09

Sky Go was working fine this end.

Times below & in OP.

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[b]Pos  Driver                Team                    Time              Laps[/b]
 1.  Lewis Hamilton        McLaren-Mercedes        1m15.564            30
 2.  Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault        1m15.682s  + 0.118  29
 3.  Nico Rosberg          Mercedes                1m15.782s  + 0.218  30
 4.  Fernando Alonso       Ferrari                 1m15.842s  + 0.278  34
 5.  Mark Webber           Red Bull-Renault        1m15.897s  + 0.333  28
 6.  Nico Hulkenberg       Force India-Mercedes    1m15.986s  + 0.422  29
 7.  Kamui Kobayashi       Sauber-Ferrari          1m16.000s  + 0.436  31
 8.  Sergio Perez          Sauber-Ferrari          1m16.249s  + 0.685  32
 9.  Michael Schumacher    Mercedes                1m16.264s  + 0.700  28
10.  Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes        1m16.347s  + 0.783  12
11.  Paul di Resta         Force India-Mercedes    1m16.460s  + 0.896  32
12.  Felipe Massa          Ferrari                 1m16.619s  + 1.055  17
13.  Pastor Maldonado      Williams-Renault        1m16.859s  + 1.295  25
14.  Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault           1m16.890s  + 1.326  36
15.  Kimi Raikkonen        Lotus-Renault           1m17.014s  + 1.450  41
16.  Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Ferrari      1m17.352s  + 1.788  28
17.  Daniel Ricciardo      Toro Rosso-Ferrari      1m17.580s  + 2.016  31
18.  Vitaly Petrov         Caterham-Renault        1m17.935s  + 2.371  23
19.  Heikki Kovalainen     Caterham-Renault        1m18.177s  + 2.613  16
20.  Pedro de la Rosa      HRT-Cosworth            1m18.182s  + 2.618  26
21.  Bruno Senna           Williams-Renault        1m18.762s  + 3.198  36
22.  Narain Karthikeyan    HRT-Cosworth            1m19.354s  + 3.790  23
23.  Timo Glock            Marussia-Cosworth       1m20.004s  + 4.440  21
24.  Charles Pic           Marussia-Cosworth       1m20.067s  + 4.503  23

englishpremier · 8 Jun 2012 at 17:11

Mercs new front wing end plates look a bit fancy.

utajoker · 8 Jun 2012 at 17:23

hamilton is always quick here but i think the merc car will make much use of the high top speed of the track and nip pole.

El_Watcher · 8 Jun 2012 at 18:03

Who is hosting the BBC highlights coverage this weekend? Jake is in Poland pitch side at the football, so is he flying to Canada on Sunday to record the intros, or are they giving the job to DC/Eddie?

Skeeter · 8 Jun 2012 at 18:10

Anyone else still got the F1 chanel on? Theres a 30 minute program on called "Weekend in Stills: Monaco". Some cracking shots. I've just mentally filled my imaginary house with massive prints

sunama · 8 Jun 2012 at 18:11

arknor said:
based on him hitting 1 person so far this season?

every other time its been someone hitting him or a mechanical failure

MSc is an unlucky driver. Its how it is now.
He is a driver who now finds himself, in almost every race, in a collision (of his making or not).

Guerrilla · 8 Jun 2012 at 18:13

El_Watcher said:
Who is hosting the BBC highlights coverage this weekend? Jake is in Poland pitch side at the football, so is he flying to Canada on Sunday to record the intros, or are they giving the job to DC/Eddie?

Seems like it's going to be Lee McKenzie again...

...and will present the Canadian, European, German and Hungarian Grands Prix in 2012 while Jake Humphrey is presenting Euro 2012 and the 2012 Olympic Games.

413x · 8 Jun 2012 at 18:40

Grr rubbish times

elmuzzy66. · 8 Jun 2012 at 18:45

Plz Mclaren a long 7th gear is needed. How many times have Mclaren set a car up only to mess up the final gear and have the cars bounce of the limiter during the race.

Flibster · 8 Jun 2012 at 18:46

FP2 now started on Sky