Canadian Grand Prix 2013, Montréal - Race 7/19

DAnDan said:
As much as some of your points are decent, that one's just ludicrous. Just because somebody doesn't enjoy watchign Monaco, they're not allowed to enjoy any of the remaining 18 (or however many) races!? :confused:
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I said if they can't appreciate Monaco (read: racing at Monaco) then ought not to the bother. Nothing to do with enjoyment, just appreciation for what is the most challenging weekend of the lot. Isn't F1 about challenging the best?
 
El_Watcher said:
This conference is silly.

Question about testing.
Brawn - You will get your answer at the tribunal.
Everyone else - Nothing to add.

Question about gaining an advantage from testing.
Horner - You will gain an advantage
Brawn - You will get your answer at the tribunal.
Everyone else - Nothing to add.

Next question about testing.
Brawn - You will get your answer at the tribunal.
Everyone else - Nothing to add.

After ten questions about testing, we have learnt nothing new about testing.

Just ask some sodding questions about Canada ffs. :confused::mad:

edit: After 5 million questions about testing, we have learnt nothing new about testing.
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It seems that once again F1 is incapable of sorting out its own mess and instead prefers to continue falling on its face in public for the hell of it.

This will go on for weeks, until a judgement is made, and then there will be appeals, and then more weeks of stupid questions, and on and on it goes. Meanwhile, there will be some races going on, if anyone bothers to notice.

this_is_gav said:
I said if they can't appreciate Monaco (read: racing at Monaco) then ought not to the bother. Nothing to do with enjoyment, just appreciation for what is the most challenging weekend of the lot. Isn't F1 about challenging the best?
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Its interesting isn't it. Everyone complains F1 isn't a challenge and all the run off areas are to big and making a mistake doesn't have a penalty, yet when F1 comes to the most challenging of tracks where even the tiniest mistake and your out, they all complain its boring.

Make your minds up.
 
Hmm actually upon closer inspection not even sure there was oversteer or a little drifting there....

In other news, this is going to be a great race, Canada is probably more representative of most tracks on the F1 calendar compared to Monaco for sure.

If so, this bodes well for Ferrari...
 
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Skeeter said:
Its interesting isn't it. Everyone complains F1 isn't a challenge and all the run off areas are to big and making a mistake doesn't have a penalty, yet when F1 comes to the most challenging of tracks where even the tiniest mistake and your out, they all complain its boring.

Make your minds up.
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I can sort of understand why people were saying Monaco this year was boring (leaving an extra 0.2 seconds in each of the major braking zones), but even if they were saving tyres while screaming through the apex of each corner, there's still huge skill in cutting 1482 corners in the most efficient way. I wish it was 100% all of the time, but no F1 race ever has been like that, even Fangio coming back against the Ferraris at the Nurburgring in 1957, in what is arguably the greatest drive of all time, was that driven all race (arguably his first stint was mediocre). Even Gilles Villeneuve, who, despite being one of the most provocative, and in this weekend poignant of drivers, didn't drive every lap of every race on edge (his greatest win came utterly controlling four other cars at Jarama in 1981). It just doesn't happen.
 
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Skeeter said:
Its interesting isn't it. Everyone complains F1 isn't a challenge and all the run off areas are to big and making a mistake doesn't have a penalty, yet when F1 comes to the most challenging of tracks where even the tiniest mistake and your out, they all complain its boring.

Make your minds up.
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looked like rosberg and hamilton were saving fuel from about like 6 or something ridiculous

How can anyone fine that exciting? even brundle mentioned it looked like everyone was fuel/tyre saving
 
Saving fuel doesn't mean they weren't trying around the corners.

OK, so the first half of the race was poor in terms of action, but if the second half of the race didn't make up for it, then you should just give up on F1 and start spectating arrive-and-drives at your local go-kart track.
 
this_is_gav said:
Saving fuel doesn't mean they weren't trying around the corners.

OK, so the first half of the race was poor in terms of action, but if the second half of the race didn't make up for it, then you should just give up on F1 and start spectating arrive-and-drives at your local go-kart track.
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yup exactly that! and for all those who hated that spanish GP in valencia we should say the same thing to!

don;t like one circuit then you have no right to watch f1 :rolleyes:
 
this_is_gav said:
OK, I'll bite. Monaco is the best challenge for a driver. While it may not always be great racing for an average fan, it's a great race if you can appreciate just how close to the margins the drivers are pushing. OK, so they won't driving at 100% for all of the laps in the 2013 race, but it's still a huge skill to drive within centimetres of the barrier in the race and glance the barriers in qualifying.

It's why I like Singapore so much - while it doesn't have even a smidge of the romance of Monaco, it offers a great challenge to the drivers.

If you can't appreciate F1 cars at Monaco, perhaps you should just stick to amatuer club racing or watching the local Burberry-wearers pulling handbrake turns in the local Tesco car park.

Awesome Alesi Video

(Annoyingly I can't find the epic camera footage of Alesi glancing every barrier from 1994/1995 which finally, as a 14 year old, convinced me I could never as much as I dreamed, ever be an F1 driver)
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Not Alesi but Berger but might be what you're looking for?

 
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