Canadian Grand Prix 2014, Montréal - Race 7/19

DAnDan · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:29

FrankJH said:
This is only a valid criticizm if the other guy lost points because of it.

So Hamilton may have retired from 1st instead of 2nd/3rd wow what a difference

You can't give penalties out like that though...

Let's assume a situation where someone 100% deliberately cheats to get into 1st place. The car now in 2nd place then retires, would you seriously say that the driver who cheated doesn't still deserve a penalty?

Jono8 · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:29

Mr Men said:
Well he won one due to car issues.

Did he?

drunkenmaster · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:30

Jono8 said:
Probably knew Hamilton would get him into the first corner if he actually went through with taking the chicane slowly so bolted it through and cut the corner.

Yup, that's precisely what I think happened, he actively decided he would be screwed if he too the chicane so cut it and sped up, gave himself a gap. It's pure cheating, I think we're beyond a 5 second penalty for that, drive through or stop go for that... not actually sure a drive through is much of a penalty here though

FrankJH said:
This is only a valid criticizm if the other guy lost points because of it.

So Hamilton may have retired from 1st instead of 2nd/3rd wow what a difference

Yeah, cheating is fine as long as the other guy wasn't going to finish anyway. :rolleyes:

FrankJH · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:30

Jono8 said:
Oh I know it is all academic now but at the time it was significant.

Not really, given how many problems mercs had today in that phase of the race 1.5s is nothing

FrankJH · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:32

drunkenmaster said:
Yeah, cheating is fine as long as the other guy wasn't going to finish anyway.

He didnt cheat according to the ex driver on the stewards panel

drunkenmaster · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:32

Jono8 said:
Indeed. I really like Ricciardo.

He looks too happy, that alone makes me feel more depressed

Seems a genuinely nice bloke, most aussies tend to feel like that(except when being told to move over for a German

).

Jono8 · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:32

FrankJH said:
Not really, given how many problems mercs had today in that phase of the race 1.5s is nothing

I don't think you are getting this.

Pigeon_Killer · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:33

I think it's time to get over the race and admit Rosberg's the better driver and Mercedes should now look to use Hamilton as the rear gunner.

FrankJH · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:33

DAnDan said:
You can't give penalties out like that though...

Let's assume a situation where someone 100% deliberately cheats to get into 1st place. The car now in 2nd place then retires, would you seriously say that the driver who cheated doesn't still deserve a penalty?

Prove a driver deliberately cheats to staet with

Alsocits pretty unlilely Rosberg would chose to flat spot his relatively new tyres

drunkenmaster · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:33

FrankJH said:
He didnt cheat according to the ex driver on the stewards panel

and? I don't share the same opinion as him, I have a different criteria, I say what I THINK happened, he is supposed to give a penalty if he can prove what happened.

Much like Monaco and Rosberg cheating to get pole, did you see him in the interviews afterwards, he was awkward as ****, apologetic, you could sense the guilt, but no proof. He beats hamilton to pole and he's smug as **** this week because he didn't cheat to do it, completely different reaction.

DAnDan · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:34

Pigeon_Killer said:
I think it's time to get over the race and admit Rosberg's the better driver and Mercedes should now look to use Hamilton as the rear gunner.

Not subtle enough!

Locky · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:34

This is the race Hamilton lost the championship tbh. The lucky cheating German will not get a DNF this season and will finish on the podium every race.

drunkenmaster · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:34

FrankJH said:
Prove a driver deliberately cheats to staet with

Alsocits pretty unlilely Rosberg would chose to flat spot his relatively new tyres

Who said he purposefully flat spotted his tires, no one. After his tires unlock he has the choice of a very slow chicane or accelerating across OFF THE TRACK, he chose the latter.

FrankJH · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:34

Jono8 said:
I don't think you are getting this.

Im getting it more than fine thank you

I just dont wear Hamilton tinted glases

DAnDan · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:35

FrankJH said:
Prove a driver deliberately cheats to staet with

Alsocits pretty unlilely Rosberg would chose to flat spot his relatively new tyres

In this scenario, it's already proven that he 100% cheated... It's why I bothered to write that.

Skeeter · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:36

FrankJH said:
He didnt cheat according to the ex driver on the stewards panel

Uh, yea he did. They just didn't deem it worthy of a penalty, but it consumed his warning so they did deem it an offence.

Jono8 · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:36

FrankJH said:
Im getting it more than fine thank you

I just dont wear Hamilton tinted glases

Nope, still not getting it.

FrankJH · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:37

drunkenmaster said:
and? I don't share the same opinion as him, I have a different criteria, I say what I THINK happened, he is supposed to give a penalty if he can prove what happened.

Much like Monaco and Rosberg cheating to get pole, did you see him in the interviews afterwards, he was awkward as ****, apologetic, you could sense the guilt, but no proof. He beats hamilton to pole and he's smug as **** this week because he didn't cheat to do it, completely different reaction.

An unfortunate sitution, nothing more - again Rosberg locked up bu mistake while pushing 110%

You are yetvagain reading into stuff that ismt there

Jokester · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:37

Massa's been taken to hospital as a precaution.

Psycho Ned · 8 Jun 2014 at 21:37

Would be funny as hell if Rosberg was 49 points up going into the last race and has his only DNF of the season handing Hamilton the title. Forum would go into meltdown!!