Cancel culture expands to real life in the USA

Murphy said:
There's post of you quiet literally saying you're angry about something, here's one of you saying "It makes me angry that people like a career criminal and riot in his name.", here's another of you saying "The one where he tried to touch a little girls breast makes me very angry.", or how about one where you just say "That makes me angry.", and here's one where you even felt the need to add four mad emotes to show just how angry you were.

If those are not you displaying anger then you need to work on those vocabulary skills.
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No. It's just a icon used in context.
Like I said in that thread. I'm angry...followed up by They call that music :(:eek:

If you don't see a joke there then you're lost to everyone and his dog.

No one can offend anyone.
It's the people who chose to be offended that get offended
Is factual and true. And the self-conscious emotions don't help.
 
Murphy said:
No one decides what the majority of people find offensive, it's just something that naturally develops in any society typical through people having conversations. Take eugenics for example, that used to be rather popular in the early 1900's but Hitler changed all that and now if you're in favour of it your probably going to cause offence.
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Your own example contradicts your point. As you say "Hitler changed all that". Not just a change "that naturally develops".

There are two ways in which people do decide what the majority of people find offensive:

1) By perception. In politics, the truth doesn't matter. What matters is what is perceived to be the truth. Without a free and fair and neutrally worded referendum (which are extremely rare in the present and were impossible in the past) it's impossible to check what the majority of people find offensive. So what matters is what can be perceived as a majority opinion and that's highly malleable. There's no need for an opinion to be held by a majority in order to be perceived as being so. There's only a need for people who support that opinion to have more power than people who oppose that opinion and the will to use that power in that way.

2) By manipulation. Lobbying, propaganda, the usual political tools. Either to genuinely change majority opinion or as part of (1).
 
Angilion said:
Your own example contradicts your point. As you say "Hitler changed all that". Not just a change "that naturally develops".

There are two ways in which people do decide what the majority of people find offensive:

1) By perception. In politics, the truth doesn't matter. What matters is what is perceived to be the truth. Without a free and fair and neutrally worded referendum (which are extremely rare in the present and were impossible in the past) it's impossible to check what the majority of people find offensive. So what matters is what can be perceived as a majority opinion and that's highly malleable. There's no need for an opinion to be held by a majority in order to be perceived as being so. There's only a need for people who support that opinion to have more power than people who oppose that opinion and the will to use that power in that way.

2) By manipulation. Lobbying, propaganda, the usual political tools. Either to genuinely change majority opinion or as part of (1).
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Perhaps that was bad wording on my behalf as the intention wasn't to say that Hitler, all by himself, changed that. My intention was to say that because of Hitlers actions, in general, wider society changed their opinion of it because of its association with Hitler.

I'd also disagree that anyone needs something like a referendum to know what the majority of people find offensive, do you need a referendum to know that the majority of people would consider anyone who support underage sex as offensive? I'd say you don't, just like you don't need a referendum to know the majority of people find the N word offensive, or homophobia, or any number of things. You don't need something like a referendum because you're part of society and are aware of things like the laws of the land and your observations of how people react when those subjects are discussed.
 
SkyTerran said:
OP is obviously one of those people who'd support the destruction of democracy and the establishment of dictatorships by populists like Trump and Putin.
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In what way did Trump behave like a dictator?

I would argue Biden with the way the corporate media both helped him to get elected (both funding and favourable coverage) and continue to cover for him is closer to reaching dictator status, he could get away with a lot more than Trump ever could. Trump wouldn't have even been able to visit a children's school without widespread negative stories about him scaring children, how many dictators do you know who didn't have the press on their side? by contrast the way they treat Biden is all a bit too North Korea for me. Not to mention the way the Democrats have exploited January 6th protests that got a bit out of hand to militarise DC. Lets be clear, if there was ever any real attempted insurrection those involved wouldn't just be facing being put on flight ban lists.
 
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Or maybe we're seeing the same old, same old CT's and nonsense popping up in GD and taking a thread wildly off course?
 
mmj_uk said:
In what way did Trump behave like a dictator?
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Praising dictators like Putin, Kim Jong-Un and Duterte. Saying US should "look into" becoming a dictatorship. Not accepting election results and putting pressure on officials to falsify them. Organizing a crowd to kill his political opponents.

Obviosly Trump wanted to turn US into a dictatorship and didn't try to hide it. Before defending him look at how people live in North Korea, Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela. You're working towards turning the West into the same type of society.
 
Oh look Trump's DOJ attempting to use a grand jury subpoena to unmask a twitter account because it mocked Devin Nunes with "mean tweets and bad memes". Then they tried to supress the fact they'd done it. So after Nunes's failed attempts to silence a parody account he got Trump to use the Department of Justice to attempt to silence the account. But its the left that tries to cancel free speech. Yeah right :rolleyes: Whoever the AUSA was who took this into court I hope they get fired, its a shameless abuse of government to infringe on a person's first amendment rights.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/18/devin-nunes-twitter-doj/
 
mmj_uk said:
I'm not even an American and this letter signed by former generals brought a tear to my eye.

Open Letter from Retired Generals and Admirals
https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/fb7c7bd8-097d-4e2f-8f12-3442d151b57d/downloads/2021 Open Letter from Retired Generals and Adm.pdf
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Add those to list with Mike Flynn as losing touch with reality then. The only good thing about that letter is that they are retired. To think even some former top brass get sucked in by Trump's lies. Doesn't say much for the US military.

And as for freedom of speech, I refer you to my post above.
 
Biden is the one acting like Putin's puppet which is what Trump was accused of for 3-4 years?

https://nypost.com/2021/05/21/what-does-vladimir-putin-have-on-joe-biden/

When Obama was first elected they had the "Russian reset" followed by the Uranium One scandal, it's funny how Russia is suddenly such a good friend and trading partner whenever Democrats get into the Whitehouse.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13637906/mike-pompeo-slammed-hillary-clinton-russian-reset

Now better get back on topic before cancel culture kicks in and thread is closed for exposing stuff the corporate media don't report on for more than 5 secs, if at all.
 
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mmj_uk said:
Biden is the one acting like Putin's puppet which is what Trump was accused of for 3-4 years?

https://nypost.com/2021/05/21/what-does-vladimir-putin-have-on-joe-biden/

When Obama was first elected they had the "Russian reset" followed by the Uranium One scandal, it's funny how Russia is suddenly such a good friend and trading partner whenever Democrats get into the Whitehouse.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13637906/mike-pompeo-slammed-hillary-clinton-russian-reset

Now better get back on topic before cancel culture kicks in and thread is closed for exposing stuff the corporate media don't report on for more than 5 secs, if at all.
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Do you think the mods work for Illuminati? They don't. Although they are on dowie's payroll.
 
sigma said:
Why is that poster seemingly put in a pedestal?
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Call him out on his transgressions and you'll be the one getting posts deleted. You know when he has called his mod-pals on you because he stops quoting you (to avoid the 'quoted deleted post' comment). This protected status has given him an aura of arrogance that he thrives on to beget more arrogance. He slips up now and then but the mods have his corner. I guess he knows them IRL.
 
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